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New Testament Church Meeting?
The Corinthians practiced what are called participatory, open, or interactive meetings. Should we imitate them in this regard? The Bible gives us guidelines on how to have a church gathering. Found in 1 Co 14:26-40  begins with "What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation." All five gifts of the ministry, nine gifts of the Spirit was working. Do you want to have CHURCH like this? "Well", Jesus already has built the rules but we have gone away from them.
In this verse, 1 Co 14:26 the apostle Paul was describing what church life was like for the Corinthians. It may come as a surprise to us to realize he did not say, "When you come together, the minister in charge has something to say. OR the pastor has a word of instruction." the early church saints were so full of what they had heard from God and the Holy Spirit had comforted it they couldn't wait to gather and speak what they had heard form the lord, through the week and that not having it written in a bible "but the Old testament only" and the Holy Spirit working with them giving utterance through the spirit. The Five hundred or more that saw him after his restoration to life had much to say. The world wouldn't hold the books that could be written. John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. KJV
All of the brethren at Corinth came ready to contribute something. Some might think that the Apostle Paul was criticizing the Corinthians for this. Perhaps there was some mild criticism intended, for as we read on, the apostle provides guidelines regarding who can speak, how often, and when. He restricted the number of those who could publicly speak in tongues and prophesy in a given meeting, (Notice But not in Acts Chapter 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.) and corrected the behavior of some. (Both Men and women)
But if there was any criticism intended in verse 1 Co 14:26, it was quite limited. He assumed the right of any of the brethren to speak in the meeting, Thus, his intent was merely to provide some corrections, "not to stop the "utterance of the spirit which created the written word". "That we read today." He did not mean to stop Praying in the Spirit.

This verse makes it startlingly clear that at Corinth, the right to publicly bring a teaching to the entire gathering church was not the exclusive right of one paid Elder or Pastor. Or a father Devine.
Col 3:16, we learn that things were apparently like that at Colosse, too: "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God." (To all the people at Colosse.)
"Speak to one another,"
     Paul also wrote in Ephesians 5:19-20 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; KJV
Notice the emphasis on teaching "one another", and singing to "one another." would this leave the women out.
     It is apparent that the way most of us have church gathering today is not "normal" in Old New Testament times. Early church meetings were a time when the everyday Christians contributed to the meetings. The right to teach in church was not the exclusive domain of the paid so called or those appointed who hired themselves and build their own church buildings . We see advantages in the way that the early Christians practiced church. Their gifts all (nine) were free to move in the Holy Spirit.
     One of the first meeting two people fell dead for lying to Peter and the Holy Spirit. Acts 5:5 And Ananas hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. (Still want to have church like the early church.) Then tell the truth!!
Ephesians 4:10-13 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, Elders /( 5 ) pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: "Till" we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: So they actually lived it in their church meetings and in the streets of every city. Even in the synagogue on the Sabbath. Some say these five Gifts have been done away with which means we can't have meeting like the early church. So they are still canonizing the written word. Are could they are changing it?
1 Corinthians 14:1 Follow after charity, (Charity is love in action) and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. (? How can you if our leaders say there are no more five gifts? No more nine gifts, tongues, no more healing, no more apostles, teachers, "MY" what happened to the Gift of FAITH. Jesus said will I find faith when I come? Do you belong to the "Tombstone Church" Proverbs 9:18 But he does not know that the dead are there, That her guests are in the depths of hell. (Hebrew Sheol) >The Grave ON earth. In other words where the spirit is quenched and your program has got in the way there is no more liberty in Christ. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
1 Corinthians 14:5 I would that ye all spoke with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies than he that speaks with tongues, "except" he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. ( You know someone might interpret> If you who think that you have power over Gods people and can stop someone from speaking tongues by the Spirit of God. You may be outside the camp of the saints.> (Church) except he interpret, except he interpret, IN CHURCH GATHERINGS!!! Both men and women.
Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; (Do you know what the Spirit is?) (It is not chanting words in writing in the old testament. It is the Gift of the Holy Spirit that Jesus said it will testify of me. The Spirit is the word of God. God is a Spirit Jesus said.
Ephesians 6:17-19 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; (John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of (Notice)>out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. John 7:38 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him." Out of your belly NIV) (Right in the gathering where two or more are I am in the mist of them. Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, (JESUS) there am I in the midst of them.1 Corinthians 14:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, Paul meant where ever I am. Jerusalem or Rome through out the world. We can have the same utterance when God gives the Spirit of utterance.


                               A supplication in the Spirit Done at home or at a Gatherin
     James 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; (in or out of the gatherings) and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. (Talk to one another.)
     Malachi 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. (This was written four hundred years before the preaching of John the Baptist and Jesus.) A book of remeremberance is being written. From Jesus till he comes again.


SO THIS MUST BE A MEETING FULL OF EDIFYING ONE ANOTHER.


Corinthians 14:2 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifies himself; (If he don't interpret,) but he that prophesies (In Your language) edifies the church that speaks the same language. (Any spiritual Person knows this Gift of tongues has been abused because of the lack of knowledge. But its still in the bible for all ages till Jesus comes.) If you don't have it you are not lost. "OK".But do all speak with tongues’NO Most of you are not permitted to say any thing in your gathering, "Please be quite ok.?? You are out of order!!" Mass is going on or my sermon being preached. If you have a growing in Christ problem, ware a baby christian diaper. "But I want to praise God." Go in the bath room then!! "No wonder people are coming out of the churches". They want to worship God in Spirit and in truth. Even if they have to do it at home without the fellowship of some. Some services or planned from January to December in a book, (so no need for the Spirit to interfere there "and he will not."
     1 Corinthians 14:4 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit ("THIS SPIRIT IS NOT THE WRITTEN WORD BECAUSE" > ) he speaketh "mysteries." (We have secrets with God: Isn"t that wonderful!! I think it is a privilege to have a tongue from the Spirit in our gathering. Or at home alone. It’s a CONFIRMATION from God that he is in your PRAYER!! I mean a real one and not fake.This Verse is saying they are talking to God direct. WOW!!! And if it is interpreted we are saying words from God to those present in that meeting.("Of course there goes the canon of the bible out the window already written",) May be to only to one person or the whole gathering of people. This is not changing that which is already written. Can we praise God for this, "yes" don't silence him or her. This would be quenching the Holy Spirit. If you don't pray in the spirit you surely wont get an interpretation. Praying the bible verses in our own language is not what this means.
1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers (many) kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: (Do we really want to have church gathering like the early CHURCH?) I SAY MOST PEOPLE DON'T. And most will be burned in the fire. Get ready the train is coming and JESUS is on it.) We must pray for god to activate his Spirit that is in us. Then the world will see Jesus was from God.
Jude 1:19-21 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. (Wonder why he didn't say the written word. The Spirit was working in the early church meeting.) (These be they who separate themselves: From who? >The Elders of the early Church, Those that had heard Jesus) 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, (There it is again!!) (The only written word they had was in these letters they wrote to one another and the old testament.) 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. KJV
1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, (MY WHAT?) but my understanding is unfruitful > Notice .(If they don't pray with the understanding don't Judge them "OK" praying in the Spirit is what we are to do . It helps our infirmity even. My spirit prayeth with the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the Spirit, for our present needs. (Not quote scriptures) and I will pray with the understanding.= Knowing that the Spirit is making interception for me. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the Spirit, ( ( NEW SONGS ) and I will sing with the understanding also. (IN our Gatherings!!)
16 Else when thou shalt bless with the Spirit, (There it is again!!) (Written word? No) how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? So let tongues be they are for the unbelievers, 1 Corinthians14:39: "do not forbid speaking in tongues." if they unbelievers come to your gathering at times. Tell me how you can bless with the Spirit if you don't use it? How do you know if there is not an unbeliever in the room? Sorry but We have a need on this subject!
     It is tough for one man to meet the teaching needs of everyone in his congregation alone. The early church gatherings, more than one person taught in the meetings, so that was not a concern. And since church leaders got to hear teaching from others, it was less likely that they had unmet spiritual needs. Is there a church leader on earth who is so mature that he cannot benefit from the teaching of others in his church? We doubt it.
We can imagine someone objecting, "we allow (women) others with the gift of teaching to teach in Sunday School, not in church." at least the members of some churches have some outlet for teaching one another. There were also opportunities to teach outside of church meetings in NT times. Something distantly kin to Sunday School, classes for new converts, arrived on the scene early. Paul held discussions daily in the Hall of Tyrannus, and others surely did similar things now and then. But Paul could not have been speaking of one of these ancient predecessors to Sunday School, because Acts 14:23 makes it very clear that he was writing about when the "whole church comes together!" And we know that Sunday school, invented less than 200 years ago, could not have been what He had in mind! No doubt, Paul was talking about church meetings, not Kingdom Hall meeting, for he used the word "church" seven times in this chapter!
And so we cannot avoid the conclusion that any man with the spiritual maturity to teach was welcome to bring a message in an early church meeting. In fact, since Paul does not limit the number of teachers who may speak, it probably often happened that more than one man would teach in a given meeting! A lot of good men have been put out of churches that are called of god to teach. No doubt, church meetings were different in the early days of the church. They were they better and healthier? I think that they were, at least after Paul got the Corinthians with these instructions. Otherwise, in the verses that follow verse 26, Paul would have steered the Corinthians more toward our modern way of doing things. But he didn't! If they would have had a program paul would have left not saying any thing.


This epistle was addressed not only to the early Corinthians, but to "all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord". That would include us!)
1 Corinthians 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. >(Let us pray the lords pray that the God of Heaven and earth will gather out of his church all things that offend that the kingdom may be purged and show the world that God sent Jesus to save the people and earth from destruction and his will be done on earth as it is done in Heaven.
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Rightly Dividing The Word.

Writtin before 1921 Clarance Larkin, "From book" Rightly Dividing The Word. From your brother Dillard Munsell

How are we to account for the wonderful preservation of the Jewish Race? Only on the supposition that God had, and still has,
some great work for them to do. In the first place they were raised up to reaffirm and teach that there was but ONE God. In the
second place to be the Writers, Preservers and Transmitters of the Holy Scriptures. To them were committed the “ORACLES of God.”
Rom. 3: 1-2. Every page and book in the Bible was written by Jews. The Jews took especial care to preserve the Scriptures and keep
them from being tampered with. In the third place they were raised up that God through them might give the world a SAVIOUR. Who was
Jesus? A JEW. In the forth place they were raised up that they might save the world from moral putrefaction.
When Jesus said, “Salvation is of the Jews” (John 4: 22), did He simply mean that from them should come the Savior-Jesus? or did
He mean, as when He said-”YE Are the ‘SALT OF THE EARTH,’” that the Jewish Race were to be the means of preventing the “Moral
Putrefaction” of the world, and that if they became extinct as a nation the world would be ripe for judgment? The writer thinks he
meant the latter, and that the salvation of the Nations, morally and physically, and the preservation of the human race on the earth
depends on the preservation and continuance of the Jews as a RACE.
The present degenerate condition of the world is owing to the fact that the Jews have lost their savor, as the salt its saltness,
and until they recover it degener­ation will continue to develop until the time comes that the smell of the decomposition of the
decaying nation­alities of the earth shall call for Divine interposition and the Jewish SALT be resavored by the conversion of the Jews,
and their becoming the leading nation of the world.
For the Jews today there is no “Pillar of Cloud” by day, nor “Shechinah Flame” by night. They have no altars, no sacrifices,
no priesthood as in former days. They observe the “Passover,” but no paschal lamb is slain. They keep the “Great Day of Atonement,”
but no blood is shed to make reconciliation for sin. All sac­rifices and oblations have ceased. They have no King, no Judges, no
Prophets, no inspired writers. The “Urim” and “Thummin” give no Divine token. The word of God is precious, but there is no “open vision.
” Their last Great Prophet was the “Man of Galilee,” but Him they rejected. Like their forefathers, who took Joseph, after they had
rejected him, and sold him for 20 pieces of silver, and he was hidden from their view in Egypt on the Throne of Pharaoh, so the Jews
took Jesus, their Joseph, and having rejected Him, sold Him for 30 pieces of silver, and He is now hidden from them on His Father’s
Throne.
Why Is This? Have they been supplanted as a “Nation” by the Gentiles, and as “God’s People” by the Church? Are they never again
to have a land of their own, and a Existence?
Is not their condition today the fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea 3 :4? “The Children of Israel shall abide MANY DAYS without
a King, and without a Prince, and without a Sacrifice, and without an Image, and without an Ephod, and without Teraphim?” Is it not
that Jerusalem must be- “Trodden down of the Gentiles until the ‘Times of the Gentiles’ be fulfilled?” Luke 21 :24.
What does Paul say “Blindness in part is happened to Israel until the ‘Fulness of the Gentiles’ be come in. And so All Israel
Shall Be Saved.” Rom. 11: 25, 26.
From these scriptures we see that the Jews have not been supplanted by either the Gentiles or the Church, and when the time comes
they will again become a nation.
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History and Meaning of Palestine and Palestinians.

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian Arab nation . . . Palestine is a name the Romans gave to Eretz Yisrael with the express purpose of infuriating the Jews . . . . Why should we use the spiteful name meant to humiliate us?
"The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity."
Golda Meir quoted by Sarah Honig, Jerusalem Post, 25 November 1995
Palestine has never existed . . . as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today . . . No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
-- from "Myths of the Middle East",  <More
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15073   <More

     Joseph Farah, Arab-American editor and journalist, WorldNetDaily, 11 October 2000
From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries . . . .
     Professor Bernard Lewis, Commentary Magazine, January 1975
Talk and writing about Israel and the Middle East feature the nouns "Palestine" and Palestinian", and the phrases "Palestinian territory" and even "Israeli-occupied Palestinian territory". All too often, these terms are used with regard to their historical or geographical meaning, so that the usage creates illusions rather than clarifies reality.
                   WHAT DOES "PALESTINE" MEAN?
It has never been the name of a nation or state. It is a geographical term, used to designate the region at those times in history when there is no nation or state there.
The word itself derives from "Peleshet", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". The name began to be used in the Thirteenth Century BCE, for a wave of migrant "Sea Peoples" who came from the area of the Aegean Sea and the Greek Islands and settled on the southern coast of the land of Canaan. There they established five independent city-states (including Gaza) on a narrow strip of land known as Philistia. The Greeks and Romans called it "Palastina".
The Philistines were not Arabs, they were not Semites. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina" derived from the Peleshet.

HOW DID THE LAND OF ISRAEL BECOME "PALESTINE"?

In the First Century CE, the Romans crushed the independent kingdom of Judea. After the failed rebellion of Bar Kokhba in the Second Century CE, the Roman Emperor Hadrian determined to wipe out the identity of Israel-Judah-Judea. Therefore, he took the name Palastina and imposed it on all the Land of Israel. At the same time, he changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina.
The Romans killed many Jews and sold many more in slavery. Some of those who survived still alive and free left the devastated country, but there was never a complete abandonment of the Land. There was never a time when there were not Jews and Jewish communities, though the size and conditions of those communities fluctuated greatly.

THE HISTORY OF PALESTINE

Thousands of years before the Romans invented "Palastina" the land had been known as "Canaan". The Canaanites had many tiny city-states, each one at times independent and at times a vassal of an Egyptian or Hittite king. The Canaanites never united into a state.
After the Exodus from Egypt probably in the Thirteenth Century BCE but perhaps earlier -- , the Children of Israel settled in the land of Canaan. There they formed first a tribal confederation, and then the biblical kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and the post-biblical kingdom of Judea. From the beginning of history to this day, Israel-Judah-Judea has the only united, independent, sovereign nation-state that ever existed in "Palestine" west of the Jordan River. (In biblical times, Ammon, Moab and Edom as well as Israel had land east of the Jordan, but they disappeared in antiquity and no other nation took their place until the British invented Trans-Jordan in the 1920s.)
     After the Roman conquest of Judea, "Palastina" became a province of the pagan Roman Empire and then of the Christian Byzantine Empire, and very briefly of the Zoroastrian Persian Empire. In 638 CE, an Arab-Muslim Caliph took Palastina away from the Byzantine Empire and made it part of an Arab-Muslim Empire. The Arabs, who had no name of their own for this region, adopted the Greco-Roman name Palastina, that they pronounced "Falastin".
      In that period, much of the mixed population of Palastina converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language. They were subjects of a distant Caliph who ruled them from his capital, that was first in Damascus and later in Baghdad. They did not become a nation or an independent state, or develop a distinct society or culture.
     In 1099, Christian Crusaders from Europe conquered Palestina-Falastin. After 1099, it was never again under Arab rule. The Christian Crusader kingdom was politically independent, but never developed a national identity. It remained a military outpost of Christian Europe, and lasted less than 100 years. Thereafter, Palestine was joined to Syria as a subject province first of the Mameluks, ethnically mixed slave-warriors whose center was in Egypt, and then of the Ottoman Turks, whose capital was in Istanbul.
     During the First World War, the British took Palestine from the Ottoman Turks. At the end of the war, the Ottoman Empire collapsed and among its subject provinces "Palestine" was assigned to the British, to govern temporarily as a mandate from the League of Nations

THE JEWISH NATIONAL HOME

     Travellers to Palestine from the Western world left records of what they saw there. The theme throughout their reports is dismal:
     The land was empty, neglected, abandoned, desolate, fallen into ruins. Nothing there [Jerusalem] to be seen but a little of the old walls which is yet remaining and all the rest is grass, moss and weeds.
-- English pilgrim in 1590
     The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population"
-- British consul in 1857
     There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] -- not for 30 miles in either direction. . . . One may ride 10 miles hereabouts and not see 10 human beings.
For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee... Nazareth is forlorn... Jericho lies a moldering ruin... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent, mournful expanse... a desolation... We never saw a human being on the whole route... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country... Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes... desolate and unlovely...
            Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad, 1867
     The restoration of the "desolate and unlovely" land began in the latter half of the Nineteenth Century with the first Jewish pioneers. Their labors created newer and better conditions and opportunities, which in turn attracted migrants from many parts of the Middle East, both Arabs and others. The Balfour Declaration of 1917, confirmed by the League of Nations Mandate, commited the British Government to the principle that "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish National Home, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object... " It was specified both that this area be open to "close Jewish settlement" and that the rights of all inhabitants already in the country be preserved and protected.
     Mandate Palestine originally included all of what is now Jordan, as well as all of what is now Israel, and the territories between them. However, when Great Britain's protégé Emir Abdullah was forced to leave the ancestral Hashemite domain in Arabia, the British created a realm for him that included all of Manfate Palestine east of the Jordan River. There was no traditional or historic Arab name for this land, so it was called after the river: first Trans-Jordan and later Jordan.
     By this political act, that violated the conditions of the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate, the British cut more than 75 percent out of the Jewish National Home. No Jew has ever been permitted to reside in Trans-Jordan/Jordan.
     than 25 percent then remained of Mandate Palestine, and even in this remnant, the British violated the Balfour and Mandate requirements for a "Jewish National Home" and for "close Jewish settlement". They progressively restricted where Jews could buy land, where they could live, build, farm or work.
     After the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel was finally able to settle some small part of those lands from which the Jews had been debarred by the British. Successive British governments regularly condemn their settlement as "illegal". In truth, it was the British who had acted illegally in banning Jews from these parts of the Jewish National Home.

WHO IS A PALESTINIAN?

     During the period of the Mandate, it was the Jewish population that was known as "Palestinians" including those who served in the British Army in World War II.
     British policy was to curtail their numbers and progressively limit Jewish immigration. By 1939, the White Paper virtually put an end to admission of Jews to Palestine. This policy was imposed the most stringently at the very time this Home was most desperately needed -- after the rise of Nazi power in Europe. Jews who might have developed the empty lands of Palestine and left progeny there, instead died in the gas chambers of Europe or in the seas they were trying to cross to the Promised Land.
     At the same time that the British slammed the gates on Jews, they permitted or ignored massive illegal immigration into Western Palestine from Arab countries Jordan, Syria, Egypt, North Africa. In 1939, Winston Churchill noted that "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied . . . ." Exact population statistics may be problematic, but it seems that by 1947 the number of Arabs west of the Jordan River was approximately triple of what it had been in 1900.
     The current myth is that these Arabs were long established in Palestine, until the Jews came and "displaced" them. The fact is, that recent Arab immigration into Palestine "displaced" the Jews. That the massive increase in Arab population was very recent is attested by the ruling of the United Nations: That any Arab who had lived in Palestine for two years and then left in 1948 qualifies as a "Palestinian refugees".
     Casual use of population statistics for Jews and Arabs in Palestine rarely consider how the proportions came to be. One factor was the British policy of keeping out Jews while bringing in Arabs. Another factor was the violence used to kill or drive out Jews even where they had been long established. For oneexample:     
     The Jewish connection with Hebron goes back to Abraham, and there has been an Israelite/Jewish community there since Joshua long before it was King David's first capital. In 1929, Arab rioters with the passive consent of the British -- killed or drove out virtually the entire Jewish community.
For another example: In 1948, Trans-Jordan seized much of Judea and Samaria (which they called The West Bank) and East Jerusalem and the Old City. They killed or drove out every Jew.
It is now often proposed as a principle of international law and morality that all places that the British and the Arabs rendered Judenrein must forever remain so. In contrast, Israel eventually allotted 17 percent of
Mandate Palestine has a large and growing population of Arab citizens.

FROM PALESTINE TO ISRAEL

     What was to become of "Palestine" after the Mandate? This question was taken up by various British and international commissions and other bodies, culminating with the United Nations in 1947. During the various deliberations, Arab officials, spokesmen and writers expressed their views on "Palestine".
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. . . .
     Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it."
Local Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not"
      Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946
"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
                Ahmed Shukairy, United Nations Security Council, 1956
     By 1948, the Arabs had still not yet discovered their ancient nation of Falastin. When they were offered half of Palestine west of the Jordan River for a state, the offer was violently rejected. Six Arab states launched a war of annihilation against the nascent State of Israel. Their purpose was not to establish an independent Falastin. Their aim was to partition western Palestine amongst themselves.
     They did not succeed in killing Israel, but Trans-Jordan succeeded in taking Judea and Samaria (West Bank) and East Jerusalem, killing or driving out all the Jews who had lived in those places, and banning Jews of all nations from Jewish holy places.
Egypt succeeded in taking the Gaza Strip. These two Arab states held these lands until 1967. Then they launched another war of annihilation against Israel, and in consequence lost the lands they had taken by war in 1948.
     During those 19 years, 1948-1967, Jordan and Egypt never offered to surrendar those lands to make up an independent state of Falastin. The "Palestinians" never sought it. Nobody in the world ever suggested it, much less demanded it. Finally, in 1964, the Palestine Liberation Movement was founded. Ahmed Shukairy, who less than 10 years earlier had denied the existence of Palestine, was its first chairman. Its charter proclaimed its sole purpose to be the destruction of Israel. To that end it helped to precipitate the Arab attack on Israel in 1967.
       The outcome of that attack then inspired an alteration in public rhetoric. As propaganda, it sounds better to speak of the liberation of Falastin than of the destruction of Israel. Much of the world, governments and media and public opinion, accept virtually without question of serious analysis the new-sprung myth of an Arab nation of Falastin, whose territory is unlawfully occupied by the Jews.
Since the end of World War I, the Arabs of the Middle East and North Africa have been given independent states in 99.5 percent of the land they claimed. Lord Balfour once expressed his hope that when the Arabs had been given so much, they would "not begrudge" the Jews the "little notch" promised to them.
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Old Testament prophecies of Jesus and fulfillment in real life.

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Old Testament prophecies of Jesus and fulfillment in real life.
If you don't know JESUS you will by a long study of this.
Born of a virgin.

Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 7:14 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel means God with us. KJV
Fulfillment>, Matthew 1:21-23 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. KJV
A descendant of Abraham.
Old Testament prophecy / Genesis 12:1-3 1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 1:1 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. KJV
Fulfillment>, Galatians 3:16 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Of the tribe of Judah.
Old Testament prophecy / Genesis 49:10 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Fulfillment>, Luke 3:23 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, 33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
Fulfillment>, Hebrews 7:14 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Of the house of David.
Old Testament prophecy / Samuel 7:12-16 12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: 15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 1:1 Matthew 11 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Born in Bethlehem.
Old Testament prophecy / Micah 5:2 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 2 1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
Fulfillment>, Luke 2:4-7 4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) 5To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. 6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
Taken to Egypt.
Old Testament prophecy / Hosea 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 2:14-15 14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Herod´s killing of the infants.
Old Testament prophecy / Jeremiah 31:15 15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 2:16-18 16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying, 18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.
Anointed by the Holy Spirit.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 11:2 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Fulfillment>, Matthew 3:16-17 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Heralded by the messenger of the Lord. (John the Baptist)
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 40:3-5 3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. 4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: 5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Old Testament prophecy / Malachi 3:1 1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 3:1-3 1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Would perform miracles.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 35:5-6 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 9:35 35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
Would preach good news.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 61:1 1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Fulfillment>, Luke 4:14-21 14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. 15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Would minister in Galilee.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 9:1 Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 4:12-16 12 Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee; 13 And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim: 14 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, 15 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; 16The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.
Would be declared to come to the temple and cleanse it.
Old Testament prophecy / Malachi 3:1 "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 21:12-13 12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Would enter Jerusalem as a king on a donkey.
Old Testament prophecy / Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you,righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 21:4-9 4 This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet: 5 "Say to the Daughter of Zion, 'See, your king comes to you, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey. 6 The disciples went and did as Jesus had instructed them. 7 They brought the donkey and the colt, placed their cloaks on them, and Jesus sat on them. 8 A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9 The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, "Hosanna to the Son of David! "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!" "Hosanna in the highest!
Would be rejected by Jews and die a humiliating death
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22:12-18 12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Fulfillment>, I Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
Rejection
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Fulfillment>, John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Betrayal by a friend.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 41:9 9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.
Fulfillment>, Luke 22:3-4 3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. 4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.
Fulfillment>, John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Sold for 30 pieces of silver.
Old Testament prophecy / Zechariah 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 26:14-15 14 Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
Silence before His accusers.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:12-14 12 And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing. 13 Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee? 14 And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
Mocked
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22: 7-8 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
Beaten
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
Spit upon
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
Piercing of his hands and feet.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22:16.For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
Crucified with thieves.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.
Praying for His persecutors.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Fulfillment>, Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Piercing His side and given gall and vinegar to drink.
Old Testament prophecy / Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (They will mourn for him again.)
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 69:21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
Fulfillment>, John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
Fulfillment>, Luke 23:36 And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,
Not a broken bone.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 34:20 He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
Fulfillment>, John 19:32-36 32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Buried in a rich man’s tomb.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:57-60 57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: 58 He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. 59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he w
rapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.
Casting lots for His garments.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Fulfillment>, John 19:23-24 23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. 24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.
Would rise from the dead.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; (NIV says grave) neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Fulfillment>, Mark 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
Fulfillment>, Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Ascend into Heaven.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 68:18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.
Fulfillment>, Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Would sit down at the right hand of God.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Fulfillment>, Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

No human being has ever made predictions which hold any comparison to those considered here in the Bible, and had them accurately come true. The span of time between the writing of these prophecies and their fulfillment is so great that the most severe critic cannot claim that the predictions were made after the events happened.
Dillard Munsell Come study with us 6:30 PM / dillmunsell@yahoo.com

Thank god we walk not about in darkness anymore!

Thank god we walk not about in darkness anymore!

In the verses leading up to 1 Corinthians 2:16, we note some truths concerning the mind of Christ:
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. I used the NIV. here The mind of Christ stands in sharp contrast to the wisdom of man (verses 1 Corinthians 2:5-6).5 so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power. 6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. (We are not of this world but of the world to come his Kingdom that will come with observation at the appearing of Jesus.

The mind of Christ involves wisdom from God, once hidden but now revealed (verse 7).7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. (Before the foundation of the world)
The mind of Christ is given to believers through the Spirit of God (verses 10-12). 10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. (We do know we have life and forever more.) The soul is not immortal with out Christ!!
The mind of Christ cannot be understood by those without the Spirit (verse 14).14

The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The mind of Christ gives believers discernment in spiritual matters (verse 15).15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment: In order to have the mind of Christ, one must first have saving faith in Christ (John 1:12; / 1 John 5:12). After salvation, the believer lives a life under God’s influence. The Holy Spirit indwells and enlightens the believer, infusing him with wisdom "the mind of Christ."

The believer bears a responsibility to yield to the Spirit’s leading (Ephesians 4:30) and to allow the Spirit to transform and renew his mind (Romans 12:1-2).
John 1:12 NIV 12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name,(JESUS) he gave the right to become children of God. (WOW I can't believe I am a son of God but it says I am. The written word and the testimony within.) He that has the son has the wittness or testimony within.
1 John 5:9-10 We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10 Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart.
Romans 8:14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
1 John 5:12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. (Any where.)
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. (When that which is perfect is come.)
1 Corinthians 13:10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. (I think this is at the appearing of Jesus.) How about you?
Romans 12:1-2 1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. 2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world (age), but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. NIV (The bible has so much to say.) You know to explain this to someone who does not read the bible is very hard to do. Thats why Jesus said unless the spirit of my father draw "you" you cannot come to me.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Dillard Munsell Lord give me that mindthat Christ had! (Come study with us.) dillmunsell@yahoo.com

The last bible study work of David Gunn.

The last bible study work of David Gunn.
David passed from this life and his works follow him. "Dillard"

John 1:1-18 The Word became flesh and dwelt among us Birth, Life, Death, Resurrection, and Purpose of God is the most important point of history.
We Learn from Gods word some wonderful truth.
#1 God made and keeps his promises Gen 3:15, 2nd sam 7:13, Micah 5:2
#2 Christ obedience brings salvation
#3 Jesus is truly Savior & Lord
#4 The Church bride spotless & sin free
This is the true meaning of Christmas.

God has only one plan, (plan A) -not plan ABCD. Everything is going according to plan.
That plan when finished is not just redemption only but a spotless bride for Jesus the son.

1- The plan began in the creation of Earth and all things that are in it, man being the very capstone of creation.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word was God and the Word became flesh: (If) the Word was God and the Word became flesh, then God became flesh. God became man. Jesus was a human being and Jesus was God. ( All God all Human)someone said Christ remained what he was(God), and became what he was not. (Flesh
In John 1:1 is about his

#1- His Being = Eternal (before the beginning as messiah)
#2- His Deity = Not only with God, but he was God
#3- His union = With God Father, The word was with God
2 - God Keeps promises = The Baby who appears in Bethlehem manger is God from eternity.
Micah 5:2 but thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born (this day) in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.
Galatians 4:4 when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son V:5 to redeem
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. Gov. shall rest on him, name wonderful, counselor, Prince of peace, Mighty God, Everlasting Father.
3 - Christ obedience brings salvation
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect / by obedient, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Jesus is Savior & Lord
Phi 2:9 God highly exalted Jesus, and gave him the name which is above every name;
V: 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things on earth and things under the earth,
5 - The Church his bride spotless & sin free

Eph 5:27 We have been taught to think all of our lives as sinners needing Redemption thoughts of sin and the fall, the church as saved sinners, looking backward, thank God for beginnings but Redemption is not the end of the story. Jesus talked about a Glorious Church without Spot or wrinkle looking forward the church is a Divine Creation in Christ Jesus our Lord. I will build my church hell can’t stop it, Church was born at Pentecost.

The eternal purpose of God from eternity is that his Son has a body to express his life in. Looking at the plan from this standpoint The Church is something that is beyond Sin. A Glorious and Spotless bride. The church is a Divine Creation in Christ. A Building, a house
#1- In Romans 5:6 = we sinned, Fallen man = Christ died for sinners, the ungodly.
Rom 5:1 We are now Justified by faith = (Righteous positional), but that’s not all of it
God will have a Glorious & Spotless sinless Bride. Are we the bride? Jesus will not have a sinful, spotted, unclean bride.

Church born at Pentecost, Did Christ become one with the church as in marriage?

Eph 5:32 If so, Positional the Church is spotless and sin free or he’s not one with it.
Can there be a church and Christ not be the head and married to it?

Cleaning process a spotless bride
#3- Eph 1:4 = Choose us before the foundation of the world (plan A in action),
(Eph 5:25) husband love your wives as Christ loved the church V: 32 Marriage but Christ speaking of the church and is at the very heart of the gospel) God loved the church and gave himself for it.
Eph 5:31 / Gen 2:24 for this (cause / woman taken out of Adam) shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh. , (Eph.5:32 this a great mystery but I speak of Christ & the Church, Marriage and becoming one.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
#1 - V:23 (because) the husband is the head = (as the part most readily taken hold of- sense of seizing)) of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church, being himself the (savior /of the body
#2 -V: 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it or Lives his life for it.
#3 –V:26 (So) he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.
#4 – V:27 (So) he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. – For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh . Jesus speaking of the Church.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son: much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. So Christ lives to save us.

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The Oracles or first principles of Christ.

The Oracles or first principles of Christ.
The bible is a Jewish book.
Romans 11:25 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, (JEWISH NATION) when I shall take away their sins. ( This was Paul writing to us Gentiles so we could understand what Jesus said in Luke 21:
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, (AD 70) then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. ( This was Paul writing Romans 11:25 to us Gentiles so we could understand what Jesus said in Luke 21: The christian Jews and Gentiles left Jerusalem in a great Cloud of dust, most were already gone.
So we have had the days of Vengenance in AD 70.
Paul to the Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed (All) the oracles of God.3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? We are to provoke the Jew to What?) "Jealousy" Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. (Gentiles) (Have we as saved Gentiles done this yet?)
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they (the Jews) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
The oracles of God occurs just three times in the Bible. Paul is emphasizing the great privilege and responsibility that was committed to the Jews when God gave His "oracles" to them, a word implying "divinely inspired utterances."> (The Common wealth of Isreal.) >What is it? Not the Ten Commanants! Steven althought called them Lively oracles. Paul said when the commandment came sin revived and I died. (When the Law was given at Mount Sinai we died also.
At Mount Sinai 3000 fell but at the Pentecost 3000 lived. So the law is aganst us it brings death, but the Oracles in Hebrews 6 brings life to the teachers and the hearers. See Romans 7:8-10
Romans 7:8-10 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. (Got it )9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. (Got it?,) 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Then the author of Hebrews rebuked those Hebrew Christians who had still not learned the very "first principles of the oracles of God," despite having been professing Christians for a long time (Hebrews 5:12). Finally, the apostle Peter urged his readers: "If any man speak, (Or write?) let him speak as the oracles of God" (1Peter 4:11.) That is, anyone who presumes to speak for the Lord must "Preach the word" (II Timothy 4:2). It is not our words, but His words that are "quick, and powerful" (Hebrews 4:12). The fact, Stephen called them "the lively [or `living'] oracles" (Acts 7:37-38). NIV 37 "This is that Moses who told the Israelites, 'God will send you a prophet like me from your own people." (He meant JESUS) 38 He was in the assembly in the desert, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers; and he received living words to pass on to us. Deut. 18:15
Paul to Timothy below.
2 Timothy 4:2 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
The ten Commandants was taught to them in the wilderness before they were written on stone.)
Jewish Christans in Hebrews and also us Gentiles today.
Hebrews 5:12 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
He mentions Christ Jesus as being " Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek." In the Old Testament, the oracles of God, Melchizedek was held forth as an eminent type of Christ; and the account we there have of him contains many gospel mysteries. These mysteries the apostle was willing to point out to the Christian Hebrews; but he apprehended, that through their weakness in knowledge, they would not understand him; and therefore breaks off for the present from saying any thing about Melchizedek. (No meat for for them then at this time in this letter.)
There is an order of the way we teach the Oracles of Hebrews chapter six.
In Hebrew the word oracle is DEBIR (#1687 in Strong's). John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". John 1:14: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
Does the Word oracle mean the Word of God in the New Testament? I Peter 4:11; Hebrews 5:12; Romans 3:1-2; Acts 7:38.
1 Peter 4:11 11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Preach the word, 1 repentance from dead works, 2 faith toward God, 3 baptisms, 4 laying on of hands, 5 resurrection of the dead, 6 eternal judgment. This was the word to the Christian Hebrews. Hebrews chapter 6
2 Timothy 4:2 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. (No doubt this was the doctrine of the Apostles.)
Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Luke 4:32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. (And the Lords Supper.)
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
A gathering in the Church or Home, heres what happens.
1Corinthians 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
NOW WHAT IS THE WORD? "All six principles or oracles of Christ." What is the law? "Death."
Steven > Acts 7:38 This is he, (Meaning JESUS) that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him (Moses) in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: (Christ was preached to them coming out of Egypt and in the wilderness.)
WHAT ARE THE FIRST PRINCIPLES OF THE ORACLES OF GOD NOW?
Hebrews 6 :1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of (1) repentance from dead works, and of (2) faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of (3) baptisms, and of (4) laying on of hands, and of (5) resurrection of the dead, and of (6) eternal judgment. (So there there or six of them here.)
Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, (1) Repent, and be (2) baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the (gift of the Holy Ghost. KJV 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off,> (Jews and Gentiles) even as many as the LORD our God shall call.
1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. "(JESUS)" 32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.
When a person teaches the doctrine of Christ he must teach all six in Hebrews.Then on to perfection.
In all these references, it is clear that these "oracles of God"--that is, the Holy Scriptures--constitute the very utterances of the living God. They were given to and through believing Jews and are preserved for us now in our Bibles. They obviously should be believed, studied, obeyed, and proclaimed by all who consider themselves to be like Jesus.
The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is the agent of God’s regenerating of the human soul, effecting the change by the instrumentality of the Word of God (John 1:12-13, 3:5-8, Titus 3:5, James 1:17-18, 1 Pet. 1:21-25, etc.). This process of renewing the soul into the image of Christ continues all through the believer’s life until its consummation in the very presence of Jesus himself (John 15:3, 17:17, Rom. 12:1-2, 1Cor. 2:9-16, 2Cor. 3:17-18, 4:4, etc. concluding with
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
We can not restore Apostles but we can teach their doctrines and live by them.
The fact that many people reject the Bible, even claiming it is wrong in what it teaches, is irrelevant. Such claims merely display human arrogance. God's Word has been "for ever settled in heaven" and "is true from the beginning"
(Psalm 119:89, 160. It will endure even after this present world has passed away (Matthew 24:35 and will finally be the criterion by which its detractors will be judged in the last day (Revelation 20:12, 22:18-19.)
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Psalm 119:160 All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 22:18,19, 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Elder and Brother Dillard Munsell All from the HOLY BOOK Pass it on to those who are hungry for the Life blood and bread of life of JESUS dillmunsell@yahoo.com. 6:30 study with us Wed.

CAN THESE BONES LIVE? ISREAL

From the book of books the Bible.
Israel’s Return To Judea and their Double Punishment.
And that Israel was God’s first chosen people.
For the serious bible student.

Deuteronomy 7:6; 6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Ps 135:4 For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.
Ps 147:19-20 19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. 20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD. >(Salvation is of the Jews. Romans> Jesus was a Jew.)
Amos 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
Notice when in Garden east of Eden God justly sentenced His disobedient children to death. (Gen 2:17; Ezekiel 18:4-20), He graciously intimated that ultimately the Seed of the woman would bruise the Serpent’s head. (They were Neither Jew or Gentile) Until Judah was born to Jacob.
Gen 3:15 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 2:17 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ezekiel 3:4,verse 20 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. v20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Later God promised Abraham that his Seed would be multiplied greatly and that in him and his seed all the families of the earth would be blessed.
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
After God had tested Abraham’s faith and loyalty, He confirmed the Covenant with an oath. Reaffirmed it to Isaac and Jacob and established it with Israel for "an everlasting covenant"
Genesis 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

Genesis 22:16-18 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

Genesis 26:24 And the LORD appeared unto him (Isaac) the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake. (The man of FAITH)

Psalm 105:6-10 6 O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen. 7 He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth. 8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations. 9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac; 10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:

God promised Israel blessings if they would obey His Law, and threatened them with punishments if they would disobey it (Deuteronomy 28), and that for centuries they received such blessings and punishments.
Additionally God threatened Israel four times (Le 26:18,21,24,28) with a final punishment of "seven times" at the hands of the nations (Gentiles), among whom He would scatter them (Le 26:33-45), if despite previous punishments they would continue to walk contrary to His law.

Luke 21: 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. (AD 70) 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. (Not the Gentiles, but the Jews of Jesus day. He came to the lost sheep of the house of Isreal.) You shall not see me till you say blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.)
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, (AD 70) and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (1914 or 1967 ) Think about it!!) Its on top of us. Our change is on it way.

Leviticus 26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. (2520 years) v21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. (2520 years) v24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. v28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. 607 BC to 1917 AD 2520 A double 1260 7 times

Now you see that the scriptures use the word "time" prophetically to indicate a literal year or a symbolic year. (Daniel 4:16,23,25,32; 7:25; 11:13;

Daniel 4:16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him. (Nebuchadnezzar)
Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Daniel 4;16 23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him; >(Speaking of the king of Babylon.)

In prophetic Scriptures a day sometimes represents a year and a week seven years. (Nu 14:34; Eze 4:4-6; Dan 9:24-27)
The "seven times" of punishment upon Israel have been fulfilled, not as a seven literal times, or years ( for their earlier punishments had often lasted longer then seven literal years), but, in harmony with Scriptural usage elsewhere, as seven symbolic times, or years, seven periods of 360 years each, making 2520 (7 x 360 = 2520) years.
These 2520 years of Gentile dominion over and punishment of the Jews began in 607 B.C. (6061/4 years B.C.) when Nebuchadnezzar overthrew Zedekiah, Judah’s last king, and desolated the land, and ended in the fall of 1914 (1913-1/4 years A.D.), when by the World War God began to dispossess the Gentile powers in the great Time of Trouble (Dan 12:1; Ps 46:6-10; 110:2,5,6; Joel 2:1,2; Zep 1:18; 3:8).
That God fulfilled these" seven times" to the day:on the tenth day of the fifth lunar month in 607 B.C. the temple. king’s house, etc., in Jerusalem were fired by the Babylonians (Jer 52:12,13), and exactly 2520 years later on the tenth day of the fifth lunar month the World War began, on Aug. 1, 1914+606= 2520 years.
Jeremiah 52:12-13 Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, 13 And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire:
From the Seven days of Creation to the Seven Seals of Revelation, Scripture is saturated with the Number Seven. Just listing all the occurrences would take several pages. Essentially all biblical scholars, regardless of their stance with respect to the meaning of numbers in Scripture, have recognized the special symbolic use of this Number. It is simply impossible to miss.
Notice that by the image in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream (Dan 2:31-45) God pictured the four universal empires of the Gentiles: the head of gold-Babylon; the breast and arms of silver-Medo-Persi; the belly and thighs of brass-Grecian Empire; the legs of iron-the Roman Empire (Eastern and Western), the feet and toes of iron mixed with clay representing the present mixture of civil governments (iron) and churchianity (clay) in Europe’s ten language nations.The stone smiting the image on its feet and breaking it into pieces represents God’s real Kingdom smiting the mixed governmental and ecclesiastical powers posing as God’s Kingdom (even as an iron and clay mixture resembles stone) in this great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation" and dashing them into pieces (Psalm 2:9), prior to filling the earth. The fifth Kingdom will be the LORDS coming with observation!!!

Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

The Jews were to be trodden down of the Gentiles only until the "seven times" (2520 years), the "times of the Gentiles," would be fulfilled, which fulfillment occurred in 1914, when the World War broke out between the Gentiles powers, and that since then God has remarkably prospered their return to His favor and to their National Home?
Isreal sufferings since 1914 are not a part of their special 2520 years’ punishment, but are sufferings to take back the land. which both Jews and Gentiles will experience in the great Time of Trouble called "Jacob’s trouble"are many battles which roots them up from all lands to cause them to return to Judea. The way of the Kings of the East are ready.

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. They must have heard the Gospel of Jesus the Christ at this time.
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon (Old prophets) shall be as the light of the sun, (New Testement) and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound. > (This is Isreal in their own land)

Jer 30:5-11 5 For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. 6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? 7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. 8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: 9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them. 10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid. 11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. John was in the Spirit on the Lords day also.
Though Israel in 607 B.C. began to suffer the 2520 years’ punishment, they as a nation were not finally destroyed until over 600 years later, and that the desolation of their land and cities, and their dispersion throughout the Gospel Age, in many lands, is forecast in many Scriptures (e.g., Le 26:31-29; De 29:22-28; Isa 17:4-6; 43:5; 5,6; Jer 4:20, 26-29; 12:4, 7-13; 16:13-18; 19:7-9; 29:14,17,18; 30:11; 32:36; 37; Amos 3:14; 5:3,5,7:8,9).
Israel’s preservation as a separate people while dispersed among all nations is one of the miracles of history.

Hosea 3:4-5 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim: 5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David (JESUS) their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Israel’s return to their land and God’s favor is also prophesied (, Le 26:40-45; Psalm 22:23-31; 102:13-28; Isa 2:2,3; 14:1; 40:1,2; Jer 23:5-8; 24:6; 30:7-11, 18-24; 31:8-12; 33:7,10,11; Eze 16:53-55, 60-63; 36:1-15, 24-38; 37; Ho 3:4,5; Joe 3:1,2,17-21; Am 9:14,15; Zep 3:10-20; Zechariah 8)

The "double" of Isa 40:2; Zec 9:12 refers to the Gospel Age as counterpart, or parallel, of the Jewish Age; also, that Jer 16:18 states that Israel’s punishment would be a "double" a period of disfavor during the Gospel Age equal to their period of favor during the Jewish Age-they to be without God’s special favor again (v.13) until its end? Only those in the body of Christ has favor with God.
Isaiah 40:2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. (Are you doing this?)
Zechariah 9:12 12 Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope: even to day do I declare that I will render double unto thee;

Did you know that this double has been fulfilled, that Israel’s "appointed time is accomplished," that God’s Word indicates that now is the time for Christians to preach comfort to, and God’s forgiveness of, Israel, and that God exhorts us to do so (Isa 40:1,2)
The "fishers" of Jeremiah 16:16 are those who have the spirit of Christ Jesus to back Israel, while the "hunters" are Israel’s persecutors and tormentors, and that God has used both of these instrumentalities to help bring Israel back to Palestine as their homeland?
Jeremiah 16:16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.
Jeremiah 16:18 And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things.
Jeremiah 3:14-18 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion: 15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. 16 And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more. God will be their Temple.
Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. (Will Bring to pass War no more in Micah 4:3)
18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. (Fulfilling Ezekel 37) All will be one nation upon the mountains of Isreal.

Micah 4:1-3 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. 2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Did you know that shortly after the Berlin Congress of Nations met in 1878 and removed the barriers on the Israelites’ return to and stay in Palestine, they began increasingly to return, and that this was given an impetus by the Zionist movement, especially in the 1890’s along political lines, and in 1910 along religious lines.
One of the objects of the Allies in the World War was to establish in Palestine a national home for the Jews, and that the Balfour declaration of 1917 pledged Britain to this end, it being favored by America also.
Increasing numbers of Jews have returned to their land, especially since the State of Israel was set up in 1948, with the populations growing from less than 50,000 Jews in 1914 to over 3 to 5,000,000 now AND MORE TO COME.
God foretold that Israel would return nationally, before they recognize the Messiah, before His Kingdom on earth is set up, and the New Covenant is made with them (Eze 37:21-28; Zec 12:10; Jer 31:23-34)

Ezekiel 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

Israel’s return to their land and to God’s favor are preludes of Millennial blessings upon them, and through them upon all nations (Jer 31:5-34; Eze 16:44-63; 36:21-38; Amos 9:11-15; Mic 4:1-4; Zec 8:20-23; 14:16-21)

You will be blessed if you love and favor Abraham’s Seed for the time to favor Israel, yea, the set time, has come that God now bids us Christians to speak a message of comfort to the Jews.

Psalm 102:13 Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come.

Zechariah 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you. (Could this be the ten Kings that give there power to the beast tell the words of God b fulfilled. Then Eat her flesh an burn her with fire.

Psalm 102:15-17 15 So the heathen shall fear the name of the LORD, and all the kings of the earth thy glory. 16 When the LORD shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. 17 He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.

Elder Dillard Munsell / Bible study and prayer on Wed. 6:30 dillmunsell@yahoo.com