Am I my brother’s keeper?

“Jordan is Palestine”

2011-05-27T21:38:00.000-07:00

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                                           “Jordan is Palestine”
If Israel waits long enough, Israel will be completely surrounded by hostile Arabs, Iran will have acquired a nuclear missile,and the United States will hesitate to intervene if Israel is attacked. The time to strike Iran is NOW, while the "Arab Spring" still is chaotic and less dangerous. Israel should bomb all known Iranian nuclear sites, and threaten to us tactical nuclear weapons if Iran tries to retaliate.
http://www.youtube.com/uc4i#p/a/f/0/wE3_2Kg-onQ <<See this
At the same time, the Sinai should be retaken, the Jordan should become the legal boundary, all the terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank should be removed, and the remaining Palestinians should be absorbed into the State of Israel. They should be denied voting rights in matters of defense and foreign policy.
           “Jordan is Palestine” Petition to be delivered to the Jordanian Embassy in Israel
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The recent revolutions in Arab countries of the Middle East prove that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not the main problem of the region. Any attempts to force Israel to create or accept a Palestinian State in the West Bank and Gaza will only enhance the instability in this region. The world-community is experiencing growing frustration in the face of the recurrent failures to resolve this conflict. These failures are the result of a miss-diagnosis of the roots of the conflict. If it was in fact a territorial conflict between two nations over a piece of land, the logical solution of division of the land would be the true cure to the conflict and could have been achieved long ago.
But this conflict is not a territorial conflict, but a religious war – a clash of ideologies. As such, the Palestinians will never be ready to recognize Israel as a Jewish State and declare the end of the conflict.

Nevertheless, the world-community wants to grant the Palestinians a state in an attempt to end the conflict. Such results can be achieved only if the world-community recognizes the historical, demographic and geopolitical fact that the Palestinians already have a state in Jordan. Jordan is the national state of the Palestinians. It was created by giving the Arabs 75% of the area that was allocated to become the Jewish Homeland by the League of Nations in San Remo after World War I. It is also important to remember that some 80% of the Jordanian citizens today are Palestinians. As King Hussein – the late father of King Abdulla the 2nd – said time and again: “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”

Prof. MK Arieh Eldad, Chairman of Hatikva Party (part of the National Union Knesset Faction) has launched an international Internet petition signed so far by more than 6,000 people from all around the globe, calling on King Abdulla to declare Jordan as the National Palestinian State. If he chooses not to do so, he may find himself confronting his citizens in Amman's streets and circles within Jordanian society that will demand it. The petition will be delivered to the Jordan Embassy in Israel on May 24th, on the occasion of the Jordanian Independence Day.

On that same day, similar petitions will be delivered to Jordanian Embassies in the USA, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Norway, the Netherlands and Slovakia.
We are sure that “Jordan is Palestine” is the only realistic alternative to the failing “Two States” solution.
                     Keep wondering why no one seems to remember this FACT?
Jordan didn't want these people. They and the rest of the Arab world built "Refugee" camps rather than take their brothers and sisters in. The camps are also a propaganda ploy to make Israel look like the cause of the squalor. The Arab nations let their kin suffer for generation after generation, rather than do the right thing and create a life of dignity for them...and ultimately everyone. It's too bad the solution falls heavily on Jordan's shoulders. Jordan is the one Arab country that does try to be civilized and keep some form of peace in the Middle East. So stirring up problems in Amman feels wrong. But the Palestinians are mostly Jordanians. And Jordan has a LOT more room to settle Muslims than tiny and Jewish Israel does. Now we're talking. This is the truth come out. Hurray Israel.
More than half of the Jordanians are Palestinians - is that not a definition of what Jordan "is" ? If more than half of the population of Belgium is Belgians, I would say that it is a Belgian country.......
If Jordan then is sensible enough to have a defence and development pact with Israel, trusting that Israel would help them in case of troubles, and also to develop the country so more people could enjoy living there - it would be an advantage for everyone.   “Jordan IS Palestine” solution to the Israel-Arab conflict.
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Muslim men "You can't take the truth.

2011-03-11T21:56:00.000-08:00

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Muslim men "You can't take the truth!!! "http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=211194
Every few months, we are presented with media reports about Jewish women rescued from their Muslim husbands in the Palestinian Authority or within Israel.
The stories are always similar. The women were tortured by their husbands, often locked in their homes or under constant guard by members of their husbands’ families. Either with or without the help of their Jewish families, they reached out to Yad L’Achim which rescues Jewish women and their children from Muslim husbands. Yad L’Achim volunteers plan and carry out often dangerous rescue operations and bring these women and their children to safety.
In January, Channel 10 presented live footage of one such rescue. Viewers saw relatives of a mother of four named Dana waiting anxiously at the Erez checkpoint as she and her children fled her husband and his family in Gaza and took their first steps of freedom.

During their courtship, Dana’s husband showed her every courtesy. After their marriage, he began regularly beating her and kept her under around the clock surveillance. A visit to Yad L’Achim’s website makes clear that her story is anything but unique.
Yad L’Achim’s work in saving Jewish women from violent Muslim husbands is especially notable given the nature of the organization. It is an anti-missionary haredi organization led by Rabbi Dov Lipshitz. It is not feminism that motivates its members to save these women. It is Jewish law. And specifically, the halachic command of the ransoming of Jewish hostages. According to the organization, it carries out scores of rescue missions like the one that rescued Dana every year.
The question naturally arises, why do haredim dominate what by rights ought to be a field occupied by secular feminists? Why aren’t Israeli and American Jewish feminists at the forefront of efforts to save these women from their violent husbands? Where, for instance, is the New Israel Fund? Its website brags, “The New Israel Fund founded or funded most of Israel’s women’s rights organizations and networks.”
Obviously Yad L’Achim, which defends these women’s right to live without fear is a women’s rights group. So why doesn’t NIF fund it? Yad L’Achim and other religious groups have been pilloried with allegations of racism in recent months for their public calls for Jewish girls and women not to date Arabs. In principle, these attacks seem fair. Blanket denunciations of Jewish- Muslim dating and intermarriage are problematic, even if they are justified from a religious perspective.
But whether one agrees or disagrees with the religious precepts that guide Yad L’Achim’s actions, the fact is they are not saving a principle. They are saving women and children. Shouldn’t that be enough to earn them the respect of the Left that is supposed to be motivated by concern for the weak and downtrodden? IN HER interview with Channel 10, Dana said that in Gaza, “what they do is curse the Jews 24 hours a day.”
The fact is that both misogyny and Jew-hatred are facts of life throughout the Muslim world. This state of affairs renders marriage to Muslim men a particularly dangerous prospect for Jewish women.
But the feminists throughout the Jewish world are silent on this issue. And this isn’t surprising. The egregious mistreatment of Jewish women by their Arab husbands involves two issues that the Left – which encompasses most feminist groups – is intent on ignoring: Islamic misogyny and Islamic Jew hatred. Just as the Left ignores, underplays, trivializes or justifies the fact that hatred of Jews is the most universal sentiment in the Muslim world today, so it systematically ignores, underplays or trivializes the endemic brutalization of women and girls throughout the Islamic world.
Take a purportedly feminist discussion of the impact of the Arab revolt on the position of women in the Arab world from ABC’s This Week with Christiane Amanpour on Sunday. In a segment that lasted roughly 15 minutes, Amanpour said essentially nothing about the appalling lives of women and girls under Islamic law.
When Newsweek editor Tina Brown mentioned “the barbaric custom of child brides,” in Yemen, Amanpour didn’t ask her to elaborate. In accordance with that Yemeni custom, little girls are routinely married off to grown men.
When Iraqi women’s rights activist Zainab Salbi noted that the key issue for women in the Muslim world is changing the family law that governs their societies, Amanpour didn’t ask her what she meant.
What she meant was that under Islamic family law, women and girls are considered the property of their male relatives. And their “owners” can legally beat them and rape them and genitally mutilate them and force them into marriages they object to. If the women and girls are “disobedient,” their male relatives can expect little or no punishment for murdering them.
Rather than discuss the real, truly life-threatening dangers faced by women and girls throughout the Islamic world, Amanpour presented her viewers with a superficial and false depiction of recent events in which a few well-dressed, perfectly coiffed, pretty young women in Egypt and two Western dressed women in Libya are supposedly transforming the position of women in their societies one tweet at a time.
It was a complete lie. But it wasn’t shocking. It would have been shocking if Amanpour had provided her viewers with any relevant facts about the subject she was purportedly discussing.
The contrast between Yad L’Achim and traditional feminist groups and icons worldwide is statement on the state of the free world today. Whereas the feminists obscure the plight of women living in the Muslim world, a haredi group is saving women living in the Muslim world.
For years the New Israel Fund and countless other Jewish and non-Jewish leftist organizations have waged a culture war against the haredim for what they allege is their mistreatment of women.
Many women – both Orthodox and non-Orthodox – disagree with the position of women in the haredi world. But it cannot be denied that today haredim are the only ones rescuing battered Jewish women from their abusive Muslim husbands.

You Israelis are all alone. This is sad.

2010-11-29T16:08:00.000-08:00

               The following is an excerpt from Ted Belmans' Israel Pundit web sight.
Dennis ”Avi” Lipkin, a Jew, in his book, Israel’s Bible Bloc, explained how he got over his hatred of Christians and came to embrace them as Israel’s best friend.

      In 1991, as the IDF spokesperson, he was invited to speak to the Dallas Council on World Affairs. They were part of the famous or infamous Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He writes;
The CFR includes among its members the power elites in both the Democrat and Republican parties and they include most Presidential nominees. They support world government and globalization. They are building a modern day Tower of Babel which denies American sovereignty and the supremacy of God from which our inalienable rights come in favour of a secular socialist utopia. Many in the U.S. Government are members.
     Lipkin spoke eloquently on how Israel had already returned 93% of the conquered land and on Israel’s need to keep the rest. Afterwards, he was invited into the “woodshed” with about 20 members of the Council.
     “You are a great IDF spokesman but you don’t know the realities. We here of the Dallas Council on World Affairs, are going to teach you realities.
    “First reality: America is tired of paying for your wars. Israel is going to make peace with the Palestinians whether it likes it or not. We don’t care if you have already handed over to the Arabs side 93% of the land you took in your wars. You are going to hand over, not 93%, or 97%, but 100% and more! You Israelis are all alone. And we don’t even care about the UN Resolutions 242 and 338 calling for new borders which are recognizable and defensible.”
     “Second reality. There is only one thing that made America great: the barrel of oil – the steady price of oil the steady supply of oil. Is that clear?”
     To which Lipkin replied, after he picked himself up off the floor,
     "When the Arabs and their oil snapped the whip in the 1930’s and 1940’s, the U.S. and Britain decided not to give the Jews seeking to flee from Nazi Europe, visas to Palestine,          England, the western hemisphere or whatever.
     It is true that Hitler and the Nazis physically killed the Jews, but the decision to industrially kill all the Jews was only taken in January 1942 at the Wannese Conference in Berlin because there were then over 7 million Jews holed up in the ghettos behind Whermacht lines and the world would not grant the Jews asylum. So we Jews were massacred so as not to get in the way of Arab oil. Breckenridge Long, US Under-Secretary of State for visas, made sure to it that no Jews would get visas to get into the US, Canada and Cuba.
     “And now you mean to say that it is going to happen again? You guys are going to sacrifice 5 million more Jews in Israel for the barrel of oil?” They answered in the affirmative.
What made him appreciate Evangelical Christians as Israel’s friend was that in response to their dire threats and warnings, two Christians who were with him in the room and not members of the Council, boldly stood up and said to them, one after the other, “You call yourself Christians? You say that what made America great was a barrel of oil? You should be ashamed of yourselves. What made America great was not a barrel of oil. What made America great was Jesus Christ.” and “Besides it says in the bible those who bless Israel are blessed and those who curse Israel are cursed.”

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Am I my brother’s keeper?: Am I my brother’s keeper?:

2010-09-10T20:45:00.000-07:00

New Testament Church Meeting?
The Corinthians practiced what are called participatory, open, or interactive meetings. Should we imitate them in this regard? The Bible gives us guidelines on how to have a church gathering. Found in 1 Co 14:26-40 begins with "What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation." All five gifts of the ministry, nine gifts of the Spirit was working. Do you want to have CHURCH like this? "Well", Jesus already has built the rules but we have gone away from them.
In this verse, 1 Co 14:26 the apostle Paul was describing what church life was like for the Corinthians. It may come as a surprise to us to realize he did not say, "When you come together, the minister in charge has something to say. OR the pastor has a word of instruction." the early church saints were so full of what they had heard from God and the Holy Spirit had comforted it they couldn't wait to gather and speak what they had heard form the lord, through the week and that not having it written in a bible "but the Old testament only" and the Holy Spirit working with them giving utterance through the spirit. The Five hundred or more that saw him after his restoration to life had much to say. The world wouldn't hold the books that could be written. John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. KJV
All of the brethren at Corinth came ready to contribute something. Some might think that the Apostle Paul was criticizing the Corinthians for this. Perhaps there was some mild criticism intended, for as we read on, the apostle provides guidelines regarding who can speak, how often, and when. He restricted the number of those who could publicly speak in tongues and prophesy in a given meeting, (Notice But not in Acts Chapter 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.) and corrected the behavior of some. (Both Men and women)
But if there was any criticism intended in verse 1 Co 14:26, it was quite limited. He assumed the right of any of the brethren to speak in the meeting, Thus, his intent was merely to provide some corrections, "not to stop the "utterance of the spirit which created the written word". "That we read today." He did not mean to stop Praying in the Spirit.

This verse makes it startlingly clear that at Corinth, the right to publicly bring a teaching to the entire gathering church was not the exclusive right of one paid Elder or Pastor. Or a father Devine.
Col 3:16, we learn that things were apparently like that at Colosse, too: "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God." (To all the people at Colosse.)
"Speak to one another,"
     Paul also wrote in Ephesians 5:19-20 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; KJV
Notice the emphasis on teaching "one another", and singing to "one another." would this leave the women out.
     It is apparent that the way most of us have church gathering today is not "normal" in Old New Testament times. Early church meetings were a time when the everyday Christians contributed to the meetings. The right to teach in church was not the exclusive domain of the paid so called or those appointed who hired themselves and build their own church buildings . We see advantages in the way that the early Christians practiced church. Their gifts all (nine) were free to move in the Holy Spirit.
     One of the first meeting two people fell dead for lying to Peter and the Holy Spirit. Acts 5:5 And Ananas hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. (Still want to have church like the early church.) Then tell the truth!!
Ephesians 4:10-13 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, Elders /( 5 ) pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: "Till" we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: So they actually lived it in their church meetings and in the streets of every city. Even in the synagogue on the Sabbath. Some say these five Gifts have been done away with which means we can't have meeting like the early church. So they are still canonizing the written word. Are could they are changing it?
1 Corinthians 14:1 Follow after charity, (Charity is love in action) and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. (? How can you if our leaders say there are no more five gifts? No more nine gifts, tongues, no more healing, no more apostles, teachers, "MY" what happened to the Gift of FAITH. Jesus said will I find faith when I come? Do you belong to the "Tombstone Church" Proverbs 9:18 But he does not know that the dead are there, That her guests are in the depths of hell. (Hebrew Sheol) >The Grave ON earth. In other words where the spirit is quenched and your program has got in the way there is no more liberty in Christ. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
1 Corinthians 14:5 I would that ye all spoke with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies than he that speaks with tongues, "except" he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. ( You know someone might interpret> If you who think that you have power over Gods people and can stop someone from speaking tongues by the Spirit of God. You may be outside the camp of the saints.> (Church) except he interpret, except he interpret, IN CHURCH GATHERINGS!!! Both men and women.
Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; (Do you know what the Spirit is?) (It is not chanting words in writing in the old testament. It is the Gift of the Holy Spirit that Jesus said it will testify of me. The Spirit is the word of God. God is a Spirit Jesus said.
Ephesians 6:17-19 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; (John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of (Notice)>out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. John 7:38 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him." Out of your belly NIV) (Right in the gathering where two or more are I am in the mist of them. Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, (JESUS) there am I in the midst of them.1 Corinthians 14:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, Paul meant where ever I am. Jerusalem or Rome through out the world. We can have the same utterance when God gives the Spirit of utterance.

                               A supplication in the Spirit Done at home or at a Gatherin
     James 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; (in or out of the gatherings) and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. (Talk to one another.)
     Malachi 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. (This was written four hundred years before the preaching of John the Baptist and Jesus.) A book of remeremberance is being written. From Jesus till he comes again.

SO THIS MUST BE A MEETING FULL OF EDIFYING ONE ANOTHER.

Corinthians 14:2 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifies himself; (If he don't interpret,) but he that prophesies (In Your language) edifies the church that speaks the same language. (Any spiritual Person knows this Gift of tongues has been abused because of the lack of knowledge. But its still in the bible for all ages till Jesus comes.) If you don't have it you are not lost. "OK".But do all speak with tongues’NO Most of you are not permitted to say any thing in your gathering, "Please be quite ok.?? You are out of order!!" Mass is going on or my sermon being preached. If you have a growing in Christ problem, ware a baby christian diaper. "But I want to praise God." Go in the bath room then!! "No wonder people are coming out of the churches". They want to worship God in Spirit and in truth. Even if they have to do it at home without the fellowship of some. Some services or planned from January to December in a book, (so no need for the Spirit to interfere there "and he will not."
     1 Corinthians 14:4 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit ("THIS SPIRIT IS NOT THE WRITTEN WORD BECAUSE" > ) he speaketh "mysteries." (We have secrets with God: Isn"t that wonderful!! I think it is a privilege to have a tongue from the Spirit in our gathering. Or at home alone. It’s a CONFIRMATION from God that he is in your PRAYER!! I mean a real one and not fake.This Verse is saying they are talking to God direct. WOW!!! And if it is interpreted we are saying words from God to those present in that meeting.("Of course there goes the canon of the bible out the window already written",) May be to only to one person or the whole gathering of people. This is not changing that which is already written. Can we praise God for this, "yes" don't silence him or her. This would be quenching the Holy Spirit. If you don't pray in the spirit you surely wont get an interpretation. Praying the bible verses in our own language is not what this means.
1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers (many) kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: (Do we really want to have church gathering like the early CHURCH?) I SAY MOST PEOPLE DON'T. And most will be burned in the fire. Get ready the train is coming and JESUS is on it.) We must pray for god to activate his Spirit that is in us. Then the world will see Jesus was from God.
Jude 1:19-21 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. (Wonder why he didn't say the written word. The Spirit was working in the early church meeting.) (These be they who separate themselves: From who? >The Elders of the early Church, Those that had heard Jesus) 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, (There it is again!!) (The only written word they had was in these letters they wrote to one another and the old testament.) 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. KJV
1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, (MY WHAT?) but my understanding is unfruitful > Notice .(If they don't pray with the understanding don't Judge them "OK" praying in the Spirit is what we are to do . It helps our infirmity even. My spirit prayeth with the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the Spirit, for our present needs. (Not quote scriptures) and I will pray with the understanding.= Knowing that the Spirit is making interception for me. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the Spirit, ( ( NEW SONGS ) and I will sing with the understanding also. (IN our Gatherings!!)
16 Else when thou shalt bless with the Spirit, (There it is again!!) (Written word? No) how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? So let tongues be they are for the unbelievers, 1 Corinthians14:39: "do not forbid speaking in tongues." if they unbelievers come to your gathering at times. Tell me how you can bless with the Spirit if you don't use it? How do you know if there is not an unbeliever in the room? Sorry but We have a need on this subject!
     It is tough for one man to meet the teaching needs of everyone in his congregation alone. The early church gatherings, more than one person taught in the meetings, so that was not a concern. And since church leaders got to hear teaching from others, it was less likely that they had unmet spiritual needs. Is there a church leader on earth who is so mature that he cannot benefit from the teaching of others in his church? We doubt it.
We can imagine someone objecting, "we allow (women) others with the gift of teaching to teach in Sunday School, not in church." at least the members of some churches have some outlet for teaching one another. There were also opportunities to teach outside of church meetings in NT times. Something distantly kin to Sunday School, classes for new converts, arrived on the scene early. Paul held discussions daily in the Hall of Tyrannus, and others surely did similar things now and then. But Paul could not have been speaking of one of these ancient predecessors to Sunday School, because Acts 14:23 makes it very clear that he was writing about when the "whole church comes together!" And we know that Sunday school, invented less than 200 years ago, could not have been what He had in mind! No doubt, Paul was talking about church meetings, not Kingdom Hall meeting, for he used the word "church" seven times in this chapter!
And so we cannot avoid the conclusion that any man with the spiritual maturity to teach was welcome to bring a message in an early church meeting. In fact, since Paul does not limit the number of teachers who may speak, it probably often happened that more than one man would teach in a given meeting! A lot of good men have been put out of churches that are called of god to teach. No doubt, church meetings were different in the early days of the church. They were they better and healthier? I think that they were, at least after Paul got the Corinthians with these instructions. Otherwise, in the verses that follow verse 26, Paul would have steered the Corinthians more toward our modern way of doing things. But he didn't! If they would have had a program paul would have left not saying any thing.

This epistle was addressed not only to the early Corinthians, but to "all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord". That would include us!)
1 Corinthians 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. >(Let us pray the lords pray that the God of Heaven and earth will gather out of his church all things that offend that the kingdom may be purged and show the world that God sent Jesus to save the people and earth from destruction and his will be done on earth as it is done in Heaven.
Dillard Munsell dillmunsell@yahoo.com    Study with us 6:30 Wed.

Rightly Dividing The Word.

2010-08-10T10:52:00.000-07:00

Writtin before 1921 Clarance Larkin, "From book" Rightly Dividing The Word. From your brother Dillard Munsell

How are we to account for the wonderful preservation of the Jewish Race? Only on the supposition that God had, and still has,
some great work for them to do. In the first place they were raised up to reaffirm and teach that there was but ONE God. In the
second place to be the Writers, Preservers and Transmitters of the Holy Scriptures. To them were committed the “ORACLES of God.”
Rom. 3: 1-2. Every page and book in the Bible was written by Jews. The Jews took especial care to preserve the Scriptures and keep
them from being tampered with. In the third place they were raised up that God through them might give the world a SAVIOUR. Who was
Jesus? A JEW. In the forth place they were raised up that they might save the world from moral putrefaction.
When Jesus said, “Salvation is of the Jews” (John 4: 22), did He simply mean that from them should come the Savior-Jesus? or did
He mean, as when He said-”YE Are the ‘SALT OF THE EARTH,’” that the Jewish Race were to be the means of preventing the “Moral
Putrefaction” of the world, and that if they became extinct as a nation the world would be ripe for judgment? The writer thinks he
meant the latter, and that the salvation of the Nations, morally and physically, and the preservation of the human race on the earth
depends on the preservation and continuance of the Jews as a RACE.
The present degenerate condition of the world is owing to the fact that the Jews have lost their savor, as the salt its saltness,
and until they recover it degeneration will continue to develop until the time comes that the smell of the decomposition of the
decaying nationalities of the earth shall call for Divine interposition and the Jewish SALT be resavored by the conversion of the Jews,
and their becoming the leading nation of the world.
For the Jews today there is no “Pillar of Cloud” by day, nor “Shechinah Flame” by night. They have no altars, no sacrifices,
no priesthood as in former days. They observe the “Passover,” but no paschal lamb is slain. They keep the “Great Day of Atonement,”
but no blood is shed to make reconciliation for sin. All sacrifices and oblations have ceased. They have no King, no Judges, no
Prophets, no inspired writers. The “Urim” and “Thummin” give no Divine token. The word of God is precious, but there is no “open vision.
” Their last Great Prophet was the “Man of Galilee,” but Him they rejected. Like their forefathers, who took Joseph, after they had
rejected him, and sold him for 20 pieces of silver, and he was hidden from their view in Egypt on the Throne of Pharaoh, so the Jews
took Jesus, their Joseph, and having rejected Him, sold Him for 30 pieces of silver, and He is now hidden from them on His Father’s
Throne.
Why Is This? Have they been supplanted as a “Nation” by the Gentiles, and as “God’s People” by the Church? Are they never again
to have a land of their own, and a Existence?
Is not their condition today the fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea 3 :4? “The Children of Israel shall abide MANY DAYS without
a King, and without a Prince, and without a Sacrifice, and without an Image, and without an Ephod, and without Teraphim?” Is it not
that Jerusalem must be- “Trodden down of the Gentiles until the ‘Times of the Gentiles’ be fulfilled?” Luke 21 :24.
What does Paul say “Blindness in part is happened to Israel until the ‘Fulness of the Gentiles’ be come in. And so All Israel
Shall Be Saved.” Rom. 11: 25, 26.
From these scriptures we see that the Jews have not been supplanted by either the Gentiles or the Church, and when the time comes
they will again become a nation.
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History and Meaning of Palestine and Palestinians.

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"There is no such thing as a Palestinian Arab nation . . . Palestine is a name the Romans gave to Eretz Yisrael with the express purpose of infuriating the Jews . . . . Why should we use the spiteful name meant to humiliate us?
"The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity."
Golda Meir quoted by Sarah Honig, Jerusalem Post, 25 November 1995
Palestine has never existed . . . as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today . . . No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
-- from "Myths of the Middle East", <More
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15073 <More

     Joseph Farah, Arab-American editor and journalist, WorldNetDaily, 11 October 2000
From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries . . . .
     Professor Bernard Lewis, Commentary Magazine, January 1975
Talk and writing about Israel and the Middle East feature the nouns "Palestine" and Palestinian", and the phrases "Palestinian territory" and even "Israeli-occupied Palestinian territory". All too often, these terms are used with regard to their historical or geographical meaning, so that the usage creates illusions rather than clarifies reality.
                   WHAT DOES "PALESTINE" MEAN?
It has never been the name of a nation or state. It is a geographical term, used to designate the region at those times in history when there is no nation or state there.
The word itself derives from "Peleshet", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". The name began to be used in the Thirteenth Century BCE, for a wave of migrant "Sea Peoples" who came from the area of the Aegean Sea and the Greek Islands and settled on the southern coast of the land of Canaan. There they established five independent city-states (including Gaza) on a narrow strip of land known as Philistia. The Greeks and Romans called it "Palastina".
The Philistines were not Arabs, they were not Semites. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina" derived from the Peleshet.

HOW DID THE LAND OF ISRAEL BECOME "PALESTINE"?

In the First Century CE, the Romans crushed the independent kingdom of Judea. After the failed rebellion of Bar Kokhba in the Second Century CE, the Roman Emperor Hadrian determined to wipe out the identity of Israel-Judah-Judea. Therefore, he took the name Palastina and imposed it on all the Land of Israel. At the same time, he changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina.
The Romans killed many Jews and sold many more in slavery. Some of those who survived still alive and free left the devastated country, but there was never a complete abandonment of the Land. There was never a time when there were not Jews and Jewish communities, though the size and conditions of those communities fluctuated greatly.

THE HISTORY OF PALESTINE

Thousands of years before the Romans invented "Palastina" the land had been known as "Canaan". The Canaanites had many tiny city-states, each one at times independent and at times a vassal of an Egyptian or Hittite king. The Canaanites never united into a state.
After the Exodus from Egypt probably in the Thirteenth Century BCE but perhaps earlier -- , the Children of Israel settled in the land of Canaan. There they formed first a tribal confederation, and then the biblical kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and the post-biblical kingdom of Judea. From the beginning of history to this day, Israel-Judah-Judea has the only united, independent, sovereign nation-state that ever existed in "Palestine" west of the Jordan River. (In biblical times, Ammon, Moab and Edom as well as Israel had land east of the Jordan, but they disappeared in antiquity and no other nation took their place until the British invented Trans-Jordan in the 1920s.)
     After the Roman conquest of Judea, "Palastina" became a province of the pagan Roman Empire and then of the Christian Byzantine Empire, and very briefly of the Zoroastrian Persian Empire. In 638 CE, an Arab-Muslim Caliph took Palastina away from the Byzantine Empire and made it part of an Arab-Muslim Empire. The Arabs, who had no name of their own for this region, adopted the Greco-Roman name Palastina, that they pronounced "Falastin".
      In that period, much of the mixed population of Palastina converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language. They were subjects of a distant Caliph who ruled them from his capital, that was first in Damascus and later in Baghdad. They did not become a nation or an independent state, or develop a distinct society or culture.
     In 1099, Christian Crusaders from Europe conquered Palestina-Falastin. After 1099, it was never again under Arab rule. The Christian Crusader kingdom was politically independent, but never developed a national identity. It remained a military outpost of Christian Europe, and lasted less than 100 years. Thereafter, Palestine was joined to Syria as a subject province first of the Mameluks, ethnically mixed slave-warriors whose center was in Egypt, and then of the Ottoman Turks, whose capital was in Istanbul.
     During the First World War, the British took Palestine from the Ottoman Turks. At the end of the war, the Ottoman Empire collapsed and among its subject provinces "Palestine" was assigned to the British, to govern temporarily as a mandate from the League of Nations

THE JEWISH NATIONAL HOME

     Travellers to Palestine from the Western world left records of what they saw there. The theme throughout their reports is dismal:
     The land was empty, neglected, abandoned, desolate, fallen into ruins. Nothing there [Jerusalem] to be seen but a little of the old walls which is yet remaining and all the rest is grass, moss and weeds.
-- English pilgrim in 1590
     The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population"
-- British consul in 1857
     There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] -- not for 30 miles in either direction. . . . One may ride 10 miles hereabouts and not see 10 human beings.
For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee... Nazareth is forlorn... Jericho lies a moldering ruin... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent, mournful expanse... a desolation... We never saw a human being on the whole route... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country... Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes... desolate and unlovely...
            Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad, 1867
     The restoration of the "desolate and unlovely" land began in the latter half of the Nineteenth Century with the first Jewish pioneers. Their labors created newer and better conditions and opportunities, which in turn attracted migrants from many parts of the Middle East, both Arabs and others. The Balfour Declaration of 1917, confirmed by the League of Nations Mandate, commited the British Government to the principle that "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish National Home, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object... " It was specified both that this area be open to "close Jewish settlement" and that the rights of all inhabitants already in the country be preserved and protected.
     Mandate Palestine originally included all of what is now Jordan, as well as all of what is now Israel, and the territories between them. However, when Great Britain's protégé Emir Abdullah was forced to leave the ancestral Hashemite domain in Arabia, the British created a realm for him that included all of Manfate Palestine east of the Jordan River. There was no traditional or historic Arab name for this land, so it was called after the river: first Trans-Jordan and later Jordan.
     By this political act, that violated the conditions of the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate, the British cut more than 75 percent out of the Jewish National Home. No Jew has ever been permitted to reside in Trans-Jordan/Jordan.
     than 25 percent then remained of Mandate Palestine, and even in this remnant, the British violated the Balfour and Mandate requirements for a "Jewish National Home" and for "close Jewish settlement". They progressively restricted where Jews could buy land, where they could live, build, farm or work.
     After the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel was finally able to settle some small part of those lands from which the Jews had been debarred by the British. Successive British governments regularly condemn their settlement as "illegal". In truth, it was the British who had acted illegally in banning Jews from these parts of the Jewish National Home.

WHO IS A PALESTINIAN?

     During the period of the Mandate, it was the Jewish population that was known as "Palestinians" including those who served in the British Army in World War II.
     British policy was to curtail their numbers and progressively limit Jewish immigration. By 1939, the White Paper virtually put an end to admission of Jews to Palestine. This policy was imposed the most stringently at the very time this Home was most desperately needed -- after the rise of Nazi power in Europe. Jews who might have developed the empty lands of Palestine and left progeny there, instead died in the gas chambers of Europe or in the seas they were trying to cross to the Promised Land.
     At the same time that the British slammed the gates on Jews, they permitted or ignored massive illegal immigration into Western Palestine from Arab countries Jordan, Syria, Egypt, North Africa. In 1939, Winston Churchill noted that "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied . . . ." Exact population statistics may be problematic, but it seems that by 1947 the number of Arabs west of the Jordan River was approximately triple of what it had been in 1900.
     The current myth is that these Arabs were long established in Palestine, until the Jews came and "displaced" them. The fact is, that recent Arab immigration into Palestine "displaced" the Jews. That the massive increase in Arab population was very recent is attested by the ruling of the United Nations: That any Arab who had lived in Palestine for two years and then left in 1948 qualifies as a "Palestinian refugees".
     Casual use of population statistics for Jews and Arabs in Palestine rarely consider how the proportions came to be. One factor was the British policy of keeping out Jews while bringing in Arabs. Another factor was the violence used to kill or drive out Jews even where they had been long established. For oneexample:
     The Jewish connection with Hebron goes back to Abraham, and there has been an Israelite/Jewish community there since Joshua long before it was King David's first capital. In 1929, Arab rioters with the passive consent of the British -- killed or drove out virtually the entire Jewish community.
For another example: In 1948, Trans-Jordan seized much of Judea and Samaria (which they called The West Bank) and East Jerusalem and the Old City. They killed or drove out every Jew.
It is now often proposed as a principle of international law and morality that all places that the British and the Arabs rendered Judenrein must forever remain so. In contrast, Israel eventually allotted 17 percent of
Mandate Palestine has a large and growing population of Arab citizens.

FROM PALESTINE TO ISRAEL

     What was to become of "Palestine" after the Mandate? This question was taken up by various British and international commissions and other bodies, culminating with the United Nations in 1947. During the various deliberations, Arab officials, spokesmen and writers expressed their views on "Palestine".
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. . . .
     Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it."
Local Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not"
     Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946
"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
                Ahmed Shukairy, United Nations Security Council, 1956
     By 1948, the Arabs had still not yet discovered their ancient nation of Falastin. When they were offered half of Palestine west of the Jordan River for a state, the offer was violently rejected. Six Arab states launched a war of annihilation against the nascent State of Israel. Their purpose was not to establish an independent Falastin. Their aim was to partition western Palestine amongst themselves.
     They did not succeed in killing Israel, but Trans-Jordan succeeded in taking Judea and Samaria (West Bank) and East Jerusalem, killing or driving out all the Jews who had lived in those places, and banning Jews of all nations from Jewish holy places.
Egypt succeeded in taking the Gaza Strip. These two Arab states held these lands until 1967. Then they launched another war of annihilation against Israel, and in consequence lost the lands they had taken by war in 1948.
     During those 19 years, 1948-1967, Jordan and Egypt never offered to surrendar those lands to make up an independent state of Falastin. The "Palestinians" never sought it. Nobody in the world ever suggested it, much less demanded it. Finally, in 1964, the Palestine Liberation Movement was founded. Ahmed Shukairy, who less than 10 years earlier had denied the existence of Palestine, was its first chairman. Its charter proclaimed its sole purpose to be the destruction of Israel. To that end it helped to precipitate the Arab attack on Israel in 1967.
       The outcome of that attack then inspired an alteration in public rhetoric. As propaganda, it sounds better to speak of the liberation of Falastin than of the destruction of Israel. Much of the world, governments and media and public opinion, accept virtually without question of serious analysis the new-sprung myth of an Arab nation of Falastin, whose territory is unlawfully occupied by the Jews.
Since the end of World War I, the Arabs of the Middle East and North Africa have been given independent states in 99.5 percent of the land they claimed. Lord Balfour once expressed his hope that when the Arabs had been given so much, they would "not begrudge" the Jews the "little notch" promised to them.
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Old Testament prophecies of Jesus and fulfillment in real life.

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Old Testament prophecies of Jesus and fulfillment in real life.
If you don't know JESUS you will by a long study of this.
Born of a virgin.

Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 7:14 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel means God with us. KJV
Fulfillment>, Matthew 1:21-23 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. KJV
A descendant of Abraham.
Old Testament prophecy / Genesis 12:1-3 1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 1:1 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. KJV
Fulfillment>, Galatians 3:16 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Of the tribe of Judah.
Old Testament prophecy / Genesis 49:10 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Fulfillment>, Luke 3:23 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, 33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
Fulfillment>, Hebrews 7:14 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Of the house of David.
Old Testament prophecy / Samuel 7:12-16 12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: 15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 1:1 Matthew 11 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Born in Bethlehem.
Old Testament prophecy / Micah 5:2 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 2 1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
Fulfillment>, Luke 2:4-7 4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) 5To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. 6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
Taken to Egypt.
Old Testament prophecy / Hosea 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 2:14-15 14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Herod´s killing of the infants.
Old Testament prophecy / Jeremiah 31:15 15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 2:16-18 16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying, 18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.
Anointed by the Holy Spirit.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 11:2 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Fulfillment>, Matthew 3:16-17 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Heralded by the messenger of the Lord. (John the Baptist)
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 40:3-5 3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. 4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: 5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Old Testament prophecy / Malachi 3:1 1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 3:1-3 1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Would perform miracles.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 35:5-6 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 9:35 35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
Would preach good news.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 61:1 1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Fulfillment>, Luke 4:14-21 14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. 15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Would minister in Galilee.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 9:1 Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 4:12-16 12 Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee; 13 And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim: 14 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, 15 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; 16The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.
Would be declared to come to the temple and cleanse it.
Old Testament prophecy / Malachi 3:1 "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 21:12-13 12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Would enter Jerusalem as a king on a donkey.
Old Testament prophecy / Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you,righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 21:4-9 4 This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet: 5 "Say to the Daughter of Zion, 'See, your king comes to you, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey. 6 The disciples went and did as Jesus had instructed them. 7 They brought the donkey and the colt, placed their cloaks on them, and Jesus sat on them. 8 A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9 The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, "Hosanna to the Son of David! "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!" "Hosanna in the highest!
Would be rejected by Jews and die a humiliating death
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22:12-18 12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Fulfillment>, I Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
Rejection
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Fulfillment>, John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Betrayal by a friend.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 41:9 9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.
Fulfillment>, Luke 22:3-4 3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. 4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.
Fulfillment>, John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Sold for 30 pieces of silver.
Old Testament prophecy / Zechariah 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 26:14-15 14 Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
Silence before His accusers.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:12-14 12 And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing. 13 Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee? 14 And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
Mocked
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22: 7-8 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
Beaten
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
Spit upon
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
Piercing of his hands and feet.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22:16.For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
Crucified with thieves.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.
Praying for His persecutors.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Fulfillment>, Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Piercing His side and given gall and vinegar to drink.
Old Testament prophecy / Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (They will mourn for him again.)
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 69:21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
Fulfillment>, John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
Fulfillment>, Luke 23:36 And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,
Not a broken bone.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 34:20 He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
Fulfillment>, John 19:32-36 32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Buried in a rich man’s tomb.
Old Testament prophecy / Isaiah 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Fulfillment>, Matthew 27:57-60 57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: 58 He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. 59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he w
rapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.
Casting lots for His garments.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Fulfillment>, John 19:23-24 23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. 24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.
Would rise from the dead.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; (NIV says grave) neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Fulfillment>, Mark 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
Fulfillment>, Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Ascend into Heaven.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 68:18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.
Fulfillment>, Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Would sit down at the right hand of God.
Old Testament prophecy / Psalm 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Fulfillment>, Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

No human being has ever made predictions which hold any comparison to those considered here in the Bible, and had them accurately come true. The span of time between the writing of these prophecies and their fulfillment is so great that the most severe critic cannot claim that the predictions were made after the events happened.
Dillard Munsell Come study with us 6:30 PM / dillmunsell@yahoo.com

Thank god we walk not about in darkness anymore!

2008-11-22T13:27:00.000-08:00

Thank god we walk not about in darkness anymore!

In the verses leading up to 1 Corinthians 2:16, we note some truths concerning the mind of Christ:
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. I used the NIV. here The mind of Christ stands in sharp contrast to the wisdom of man (verses 1 Corinthians 2:5-6).5 so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power. 6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. (We are not of this world but of the world to come his Kingdom that will come with observation at the appearing of Jesus.

The mind of Christ involves wisdom from God, once hidden but now revealed (verse 7).7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. (Before the foundation of the world)
The mind of Christ is given to believers through the Spirit of God (verses 10-12). 10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. (We do know we have life and forever more.) The soul is not immortal with out Christ!!
The mind of Christ cannot be understood by those without the Spirit (verse 14).14

The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The mind of Christ gives believers discernment in spiritual matters (verse 15).15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment: In order to have the mind of Christ, one must first have saving faith in Christ (John 1:12; / 1 John 5:12). After salvation, the believer lives a life under God’s influence. The Holy Spirit indwells and enlightens the believer, infusing him with wisdom "the mind of Christ."

The believer bears a responsibility to yield to the Spirit’s leading (Ephesians 4:30) and to allow the Spirit to transform and renew his mind (Romans 12:1-2).
John 1:12 NIV 12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name,(JESUS) he gave the right to become children of God. (WOW I can't believe I am a son of God but it says I am. The written word and the testimony within.) He that has the son has the wittness or testimony within.
1 John 5:9-10 We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10 Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart.
Romans 8:14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
1 John 5:12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. (Any where.)
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. (When that which is perfect is come.)
1 Corinthians 13:10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. (I think this is at the appearing of Jesus.) How about you?
Romans 12:1-2 1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. 2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world (age), but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. NIV (The bible has so much to say.) You know to explain this to someone who does not read the bible is very hard to do. Thats why Jesus said unless the spirit of my father draw "you" you cannot come to me.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Dillard Munsell Lord give me that mindthat Christ had! (Come study with us.) dillmunsell@yahoo.com

The last bible study work of David Gunn.

2008-10-11T04:38:00.000-07:00

The last bible study work of David Gunn.
David passed from this life and his works follow him. "Dillard"

John 1:1-18 The Word became flesh and dwelt among us Birth, Life, Death, Resurrection, and Purpose of God is the most important point of history.
We Learn from Gods word some wonderful truth.
#1 God made and keeps his promises Gen 3:15, 2nd sam 7:13, Micah 5:2
#2 Christ obedience brings salvation
#3 Jesus is truly Savior & Lord
#4 The Church bride spotless & sin free
This is the true meaning of Christmas.

God has only one plan, (plan A) -not plan ABCD. Everything is going according to plan.
That plan when finished is not just redemption only but a spotless bride for Jesus the son.

1- The plan began in the creation of Earth and all things that are in it, man being the very capstone of creation.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word was God and the Word became flesh: (If) the Word was God and the Word became flesh, then God became flesh. God became man. Jesus was a human being and Jesus was God. ( All God all Human)someone said Christ remained what he was(God), and became what he was not. (Flesh
In John 1:1 is about his

#1- His Being = Eternal (before the beginning as messiah)
#2- His Deity = Not only with God, but he was God
#3- His union = With God Father, The word was with God
2 - God Keeps promises = The Baby who appears in Bethlehem manger is God from eternity.
Micah 5:2 but thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born (this day) in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.
Galatians 4:4 when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son V:5 to redeem
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. Gov. shall rest on him, name wonderful, counselor, Prince of peace, Mighty God, Everlasting Father.
3 - Christ obedience brings salvation
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect / by obedient, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Jesus is Savior & Lord
Phi 2:9 God highly exalted Jesus, and gave him the name which is above every name;
V: 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things on earth and things under the earth,
5 - The Church his bride spotless & sin free

Eph 5:27 We have been taught to think all of our lives as sinners needing Redemption thoughts of sin and the fall, the church as saved sinners, looking backward, thank God for beginnings but Redemption is not the end of the story. Jesus talked about a Glorious Church without Spot or wrinkle looking forward the church is a Divine Creation in Christ Jesus our Lord. I will build my church hell can’t stop it, Church was born at Pentecost.

The eternal purpose of God from eternity is that his Son has a body to express his life in. Looking at the plan from this standpoint The Church is something that is beyond Sin. A Glorious and Spotless bride. The church is a Divine Creation in Christ. A Building, a house
#1- In Romans 5:6 = we sinned, Fallen man = Christ died for sinners, the ungodly.
Rom 5:1 We are now Justified by faith = (Righteous positional), but that’s not all of it
God will have a Glorious & Spotless sinless Bride. Are we the bride? Jesus will not have a sinful, spotted, unclean bride.

Church born at Pentecost, Did Christ become one with the church as in marriage?

Eph 5:32 If so, Positional the Church is spotless and sin free or he’s not one with it.
Can there be a church and Christ not be the head and married to it?

Cleaning process a spotless bride
#3- Eph 1:4 = Choose us before the foundation of the world (plan A in action),
(Eph 5:25) husband love your wives as Christ loved the church V: 32 Marriage but Christ speaking of the church and is at the very heart of the gospel) God loved the church and gave himself for it.
Eph 5:31 / Gen 2:24 for this (cause / woman taken out of Adam) shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh. , (Eph.5:32 this a great mystery but I speak of Christ & the Church, Marriage and becoming one.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
#1 - V:23 (because) the husband is the head = (as the part most readily taken hold of- sense of seizing)) of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church, being himself the (savior /of the body
#2 -V: 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it or Lives his life for it.
#3 –V:26 (So) he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.
#4 – V:27 (So) he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. – For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh . Jesus speaking of the Church.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son: much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. So Christ lives to save us.

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The Oracles or first principles of Christ.

2008-05-29T18:33:00.001-07:00

The Oracles or first principles of Christ.
The bible is a Jewish book.
Romans 11:25 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, (JEWISH NATION) when I shall take away their sins. ( This was Paul writing to us Gentiles so we could understand what Jesus said in Luke 21:
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, (AD 70) then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. ( This was Paul writing Romans 11:25 to us Gentiles so we could understand what Jesus said in Luke 21: The christian Jews and Gentiles left Jerusalem in a great Cloud of dust, most were already gone.
So we have had the days of Vengenance in AD 70.
Paul to the Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed (All) the oracles of God.3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? We are to provoke the Jew to What?) "Jealousy" Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. (Gentiles) (Have we as saved Gentiles done this yet?)
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they (the Jews) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
The oracles of God occurs just three times in the Bible. Paul is emphasizing the great privilege and responsibility that was committed to the Jews when God gave His "oracles" to them, a word implying "divinely inspired utterances."> (The Common wealth of Isreal.) >What is it? Not the Ten Commanants! Steven althought called them Lively oracles. Paul said when the commandment came sin revived and I died. (When the Law was given at Mount Sinai we died also.
At Mount Sinai 3000 fell but at the Pentecost 3000 lived. So the law is aganst us it brings death, but the Oracles in Hebrews 6 brings life to the teachers and the hearers. See Romans 7:8-10
Romans 7:8-10 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. (Got it )9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. (Got it?,) 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Then the author of Hebrews rebuked those Hebrew Christians who had still not learned the very "first principles of the oracles of God," despite having been professing Christians for a long time (Hebrews 5:12). Finally, the apostle Peter urged his readers: "If any man speak, (Or write?) let him speak as the oracles of God" (1Peter 4:11.) That is, anyone who presumes to speak for the Lord must "Preach the word" (II Timothy 4:2). It is not our words, but His words that are "quick, and powerful" (Hebrews 4:12). The fact, Stephen called them "the lively [or `living'] oracles" (Acts 7:37-38). NIV 37 "This is that Moses who told the Israelites, 'God will send you a prophet like me from your own people." (He meant JESUS) 38 He was in the assembly in the desert, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers; and he received living words to pass on to us. Deut. 18:15
Paul to Timothy below.
2 Timothy 4:2 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
The ten Commandants was taught to them in the wilderness before they were written on stone.)
Jewish Christans in Hebrews and also us Gentiles today.
Hebrews 5:12 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
He mentions Christ Jesus as being " Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek." In the Old Testament, the oracles of God, Melchizedek was held forth as an eminent type of Christ; and the account we there have of him contains many gospel mysteries. These mysteries the apostle was willing to point out to the Christian Hebrews; but he apprehended, that through their weakness in knowledge, they would not understand him; and therefore breaks off for the present from saying any thing about Melchizedek. (No meat for for them then at this time in this letter.)
There is an order of the way we teach the Oracles of Hebrews chapter six.
In Hebrew the word oracle is DEBIR (#1687 in Strong's). John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". John 1:14: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
Does the Word oracle mean the Word of God in the New Testament? I Peter 4:11; Hebrews 5:12; Romans 3:1-2; Acts 7:38.
1 Peter 4:11 11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Preach the word, 1 repentance from dead works, 2 faith toward God, 3 baptisms, 4 laying on of hands, 5 resurrection of the dead, 6 eternal judgment. This was the word to the Christian Hebrews. Hebrews chapter 6
2 Timothy 4:2 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. (No doubt this was the doctrine of the Apostles.)
Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Luke 4:32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. (And the Lords Supper.)
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
A gathering in the Church or Home, heres what happens.
1Corinthians 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
NOW WHAT IS THE WORD? "All six principles or oracles of Christ." What is the law? "Death."
Steven > Acts 7:38 This is he, (Meaning JESUS) that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him (Moses) in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: (Christ was preached to them coming out of Egypt and in the wilderness.)
WHAT ARE THE FIRST PRINCIPLES OF THE ORACLES OF GOD NOW?
Hebrews 6 :1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of (1) repentance from dead works, and of (2) faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of (3) baptisms, and of (4) laying on of hands, and of (5) resurrection of the dead, and of (6) eternal judgment. (So there there or six of them here.)
Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, (1) Repent, and be (2) baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the (gift of the Holy Ghost. KJV 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off,> (Jews and Gentiles) even as many as the LORD our God shall call.
1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. "(JESUS)" 32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.
When a person teaches the doctrine of Christ he must teach all six in Hebrews.Then on to perfection.
In all these references, it is clear that these "oracles of God"--that is, the Holy Scriptures--constitute the very utterances of the living God. They were given to and through believing Jews and are preserved for us now in our Bibles. They obviously should be believed, studied, obeyed, and proclaimed by all who consider themselves to be like Jesus.
The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is the agent of God’s regenerating of the human soul, effecting the change by the instrumentality of the Word of God (John 1:12-13, 3:5-8, Titus 3:5, James 1:17-18, 1 Pet. 1:21-25, etc.). This process of renewing the soul into the image of Christ continues all through the believer’s life until its consummation in the very presence of Jesus himself (John 15:3, 17:17, Rom. 12:1-2, 1Cor. 2:9-16, 2Cor. 3:17-18, 4:4, etc. concluding with
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
We can not restore Apostles but we can teach their doctrines and live by them.
The fact that many people reject the Bible, even claiming it is wrong in what it teaches, is irrelevant. Such claims merely display human arrogance. God's Word has been "for ever settled in heaven" and "is true from the beginning"
(Psalm 119:89, 160. It will endure even after this present world has passed away (Matthew 24:35 and will finally be the criterion by which its detractors will be judged in the last day (Revelation 20:12, 22:18-19.)
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Psalm 119:160 All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 22:18,19, 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Elder and Brother Dillard Munsell All from the HOLY BOOK Pass it on to those who are hungry for the Life blood and bread of life of JESUS dillmunsell@yahoo.com. 6:30 study with us Wed.

CAN THESE BONES LIVE? ISREAL

2008-02-25T13:52:00.000-08:00

From the book of books the Bible.
Israel’s Return To Judea and their Double Punishment.
And that Israel was God’s first chosen people.
For the serious bible student.

Deuteronomy 7:6; 6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Ps 135:4 For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.
Ps 147:19-20 19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. 20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD. >(Salvation is of the Jews. Romans> Jesus was a Jew.)
Amos 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
Notice when in Garden east of Eden God justly sentenced His disobedient children to death. (Gen 2:17; Ezekiel 18:4-20), He graciously intimated that ultimately the Seed of the woman would bruise the Serpent’s head. (They were Neither Jew or Gentile) Until Judah was born to Jacob.
Gen 3:15 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 2:17 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ezekiel 3:4,verse 20 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. v20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Later God promised Abraham that his Seed would be multiplied greatly and that in him and his seed all the families of the earth would be blessed.
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
After God had tested Abraham’s faith and loyalty, He confirmed the Covenant with an oath. Reaffirmed it to Isaac and Jacob and established it with Israel for "an everlasting covenant"
Genesis 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

Genesis 22:16-18 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

Genesis 26:24 And the LORD appeared unto him (Isaac) the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake. (The man of FAITH)

Psalm 105:6-10 6 O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen. 7 He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth. 8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations. 9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac; 10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:

God promised Israel blessings if they would obey His Law, and threatened them with punishments if they would disobey it (Deuteronomy 28), and that for centuries they received such blessings and punishments.
Additionally God threatened Israel four times (Le 26:18,21,24,28) with a final punishment of "seven times" at the hands of the nations (Gentiles), among whom He would scatter them (Le 26:33-45), if despite previous punishments they would continue to walk contrary to His law.

Luke 21: 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. (AD 70) 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. (Not the Gentiles, but the Jews of Jesus day. He came to the lost sheep of the house of Isreal.) You shall not see me till you say blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.)
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, (AD 70) and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (1914 or 1967 ) Think about it!!) Its on top of us. Our change is on it way.

Leviticus 26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. (2520 years) v21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. (2520 years) v24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. v28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. 607 BC to 1917 AD 2520 A double 1260 7 times

Now you see that the scriptures use the word "time" prophetically to indicate a literal year or a symbolic year. (Daniel 4:16,23,25,32; 7:25; 11:13;

Daniel 4:16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him. (Nebuchadnezzar)
Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Daniel 4;16 23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him; >(Speaking of the king of Babylon.)

In prophetic Scriptures a day sometimes represents a year and a week seven years. (Nu 14:34; Eze 4:4-6; Dan 9:24-27)
The "seven times" of punishment upon Israel have been fulfilled, not as a seven literal times, or years ( for their earlier punishments had often lasted longer then seven literal years), but, in harmony with Scriptural usage elsewhere, as seven symbolic times, or years, seven periods of 360 years each, making 2520 (7 x 360 = 2520) years.
These 2520 years of Gentile dominion over and punishment of the Jews began in 607 B.C. (6061/4 years B.C.) when Nebuchadnezzar overthrew Zedekiah, Judah’s last king, and desolated the land, and ended in the fall of 1914 (1913-1/4 years A.D.), when by the World War God began to dispossess the Gentile powers in the great Time of Trouble (Dan 12:1; Ps 46:6-10; 110:2,5,6; Joel 2:1,2; Zep 1:18; 3:8).
That God fulfilled these" seven times" to the day:on the tenth day of the fifth lunar month in 607 B.C. the temple. king’s house, etc., in Jerusalem were fired by the Babylonians (Jer 52:12,13), and exactly 2520 years later on the tenth day of the fifth lunar month the World War began, on Aug. 1, 1914+606= 2520 years.
Jeremiah 52:12-13 Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, 13 And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire:
From the Seven days of Creation to the Seven Seals of Revelation, Scripture is saturated with the Number Seven. Just listing all the occurrences would take several pages. Essentially all biblical scholars, regardless of their stance with respect to the meaning of numbers in Scripture, have recognized the special symbolic use of this Number. It is simply impossible to miss.
Notice that by the image in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream (Dan 2:31-45) God pictured the four universal empires of the Gentiles: the head of gold-Babylon; the breast and arms of silver-Medo-Persi; the belly and thighs of brass-Grecian Empire; the legs of iron-the Roman Empire (Eastern and Western), the feet and toes of iron mixed with clay representing the present mixture of civil governments (iron) and churchianity (clay) in Europe’s ten language nations.The stone smiting the image on its feet and breaking it into pieces represents God’s real Kingdom smiting the mixed governmental and ecclesiastical powers posing as God’s Kingdom (even as an iron and clay mixture resembles stone) in this great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation" and dashing them into pieces (Psalm 2:9), prior to filling the earth. The fifth Kingdom will be the LORDS coming with observation!!!

Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

The Jews were to be trodden down of the Gentiles only until the "seven times" (2520 years), the "times of the Gentiles," would be fulfilled, which fulfillment occurred in 1914, when the World War broke out between the Gentiles powers, and that since then God has remarkably prospered their return to His favor and to their National Home?
Isreal sufferings since 1914 are not a part of their special 2520 years’ punishment, but are sufferings to take back the land. which both Jews and Gentiles will experience in the great Time of Trouble called "Jacob’s trouble"are many battles which roots them up from all lands to cause them to return to Judea. The way of the Kings of the East are ready.

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. They must have heard the Gospel of Jesus the Christ at this time.
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon (Old prophets) shall be as the light of the sun, (New Testement) and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound. > (This is Isreal in their own land)

Jer 30:5-11 5 For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. 6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? 7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. 8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: 9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them. 10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid. 11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. John was in the Spirit on the Lords day also.
Though Israel in 607 B.C. began to suffer the 2520 years’ punishment, they as a nation were not finally destroyed until over 600 years later, and that the desolation of their land and cities, and their dispersion throughout the Gospel Age, in many lands, is forecast in many Scriptures (e.g., Le 26:31-29; De 29:22-28; Isa 17:4-6; 43:5; 5,6; Jer 4:20, 26-29; 12:4, 7-13; 16:13-18; 19:7-9; 29:14,17,18; 30:11; 32:36; 37; Amos 3:14; 5:3,5,7:8,9).
Israel’s preservation as a separate people while dispersed among all nations is one of the miracles of history.

Hosea 3:4-5 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim: 5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David (JESUS) their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Israel’s return to their land and God’s favor is also prophesied (, Le 26:40-45; Psalm 22:23-31; 102:13-28; Isa 2:2,3; 14:1; 40:1,2; Jer 23:5-8; 24:6; 30:7-11, 18-24; 31:8-12; 33:7,10,11; Eze 16:53-55, 60-63; 36:1-15, 24-38; 37; Ho 3:4,5; Joe 3:1,2,17-21; Am 9:14,15; Zep 3:10-20; Zechariah 8)

The "double" of Isa 40:2; Zec 9:12 refers to the Gospel Age as counterpart, or parallel, of the Jewish Age; also, that Jer 16:18 states that Israel’s punishment would be a "double" a period of disfavor during the Gospel Age equal to their period of favor during the Jewish Age-they to be without God’s special favor again (v.13) until its end? Only those in the body of Christ has favor with God.
Isaiah 40:2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. (Are you doing this?)
Zechariah 9:12 12 Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope: even to day do I declare that I will render double unto thee;

Did you know that this double has been fulfilled, that Israel’s "appointed time is accomplished," that God’s Word indicates that now is the time for Christians to preach comfort to, and God’s forgiveness of, Israel, and that God exhorts us to do so (Isa 40:1,2)
The "fishers" of Jeremiah 16:16 are those who have the spirit of Christ Jesus to back Israel, while the "hunters" are Israel’s persecutors and tormentors, and that God has used both of these instrumentalities to help bring Israel back to Palestine as their homeland?
Jeremiah 16:16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.
Jeremiah 16:18 And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things.
Jeremiah 3:14-18 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion: 15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. 16 And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more. God will be their Temple.
Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. (Will Bring to pass War no more in Micah 4:3)
18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. (Fulfilling Ezekel 37) All will be one nation upon the mountains of Isreal.

Micah 4:1-3 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. 2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Did you know that shortly after the Berlin Congress of Nations met in 1878 and removed the barriers on the Israelites’ return to and stay in Palestine, they began increasingly to return, and that this was given an impetus by the Zionist movement, especially in the 1890’s along political lines, and in 1910 along religious lines.
One of the objects of the Allies in the World War was to establish in Palestine a national home for the Jews, and that the Balfour declaration of 1917 pledged Britain to this end, it being favored by America also.
Increasing numbers of Jews have returned to their land, especially since the State of Israel was set up in 1948, with the populations growing from less than 50,000 Jews in 1914 to over 3 to 5,000,000 now AND MORE TO COME.
God foretold that Israel would return nationally, before they recognize the Messiah, before His Kingdom on earth is set up, and the New Covenant is made with them (Eze 37:21-28; Zec 12:10; Jer 31:23-34)

Ezekiel 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

Israel’s return to their land and to God’s favor are preludes of Millennial blessings upon them, and through them upon all nations (Jer 31:5-34; Eze 16:44-63; 36:21-38; Amos 9:11-15; Mic 4:1-4; Zec 8:20-23; 14:16-21)

You will be blessed if you love and favor Abraham’s Seed for the time to favor Israel, yea, the set time, has come that God now bids us Christians to speak a message of comfort to the Jews.

Psalm 102:13 Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come.

Zechariah 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you. (Could this be the ten Kings that give there power to the beast tell the words of God b fulfilled. Then Eat her flesh an burn her with fire.

Psalm 102:15-17 15 So the heathen shall fear the name of the LORD, and all the kings of the earth thy glory. 16 When the LORD shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. 17 He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.

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It cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

2007-12-23T04:18:00.000-08:00

It cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
Luke 13:33"Jesus said" Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the" divine nature, " having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.

It cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
A prophet is one through whom God speaks, one appointed to reveal the will of God to His people. One of the greatest of these prophets was God's own Son, "Jesus Christ"
Hebrews 1:2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Luke 13:33 Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
Luke 24:19 19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

People seldom think of Jesus Christ as a prophet, but a prophet He was. His message,> "the Gospel of the Kingdom of God" is filled with prophecy. His message explains and clarifies the destiny of mankind, revealing the way God will accomplish His master plan.

Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
The record of Jesus Christ's birth, life, ministry and death is one of history's most powerful confirmations of the reliability and accuracy of Bible prophecy.
Precise details about Jesus' birth, ministry and crucifixion were accurately foretold hundreds, even thousands, of years before He was born. Specific events and circumstances foretold centuries earlier came to pass exactly as the Hebrew prophets had predicted, providing compelling evidence of their credibility and substantiating the accuracy of their messages.
Could their words hold meaning for us today? Did you know those same prophets tell us what Jesus Christ has planned for the future>>>>your future?
We already know that Jesus promised to return to earth. That promise is an excellent example of prophecy. He also promised to finish the work He began at His first coming. Throughout the Bible the life and mission of the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth, are depicted as examples of His devotion to the welfare of people. Many prophecies yet to be fulfilled are directly related to the future work and mission of Jesus Christ.
Romans 9:28 For he will finish the work, (On earth) and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. (33 1/2 years)
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work (On earth) which thou gavest me to do.Now Its up to us to beleive it!!!
Dillard Munsell dillmunsell@yahoo.com Study with us while it is still time Wed. 6:30 In Home

Was Jesus God? Is Jesus God?

2007-10-04T21:50:00.001-07:00

Was Jesus God? Is Jesus God
Is Jesus God? The answer to this question is the only real dispute surrounding the historical Jesus. No legitimate scholar today denies that Jesus is a historic figure that walked on this earth about 2,000 years ago, that he did remarkable wonders and acts of charity, and that He died a horrible death on a Roman cross just outside Jerusalem. The emotionally-charged dispute focuses specifically on whether Jesus was God incarnate who rose from the dead three days after His Crucifixion.
Was Jesus God? Is Jesus God? Only Alternatives
Was Jesus God? Is he still God? Many people have dealt with this "spiritual" dispute by intellectually accepting Jesus as a great man, great teacher, or great prophet. However, Jesus and His inspired followers didn't (mince) means => a : to cut or chop into very small pieces b : to subdivide minutely; especially : to damage by cutting up)> words when they declared Him to be God (John 10:30-38, Matthew 16:13-17, Mark 14:61-64, John 14:6, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 1:16, John 12:40-41 (READ THESE SCRIPTURES BELOW.) Therefore, any type of intellectual compromise calling Jesus a "good man" is logically inconsistent. Why? Because there are really only three legitimate alternatives for the identity of Jesus Christ. He is either a liar, a lunatic or our Lord and God. Since Jesus claimed to be God, His claims are either true or false. If false, He must have been a liar, deliberately misleading the multitudes. Or, He was a lunatic, sincerely believing Himself to be God, when in reality He was just a man. However, if Jesus was a "good man," as most people now agree, how then could He be both good and crazy, or good and a liar? There is only one logically consistent alternative - He must have been telling the truth. In addition to the logical inconsistency, the remarkable historical, archaeological and manuscript evidence shows that Jesus was neither a liar nor a lunatic. Again, the only position left is that His claim is true. Jesus is Lord and God.
The only real argument that remains, is that Jesus was just a legend or myth. There is little likelihood that Jesus' claims are legend. There just wasn't enough time for any legendary development of the story to replace what really happened. For instance, we now know that the Gospels were written 30 to 50 years after the crucifixion of Jesus. More dramatically, we now date some of the early Christian creeds, proclaiming the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, to 3 to 10 years after His crucifixion. This includes Paul's letters to the Corinthians, Romans and Galatians. Finally, if Jesus' claim of deity was a myth, the early Jewish opponents of Christianity would surely have presented the fact that these claims never happened. Unlike modern skeptics, the Jewish rabbis never denied that Jesus made the claim that He was God. Instead, they called Him a liar, and tried Him for blasphemy.
Was Jesus God? Is he God? The Only Answer
Was Jesus God? Is Jesus God. Once you have asked all your questions, weighed all the evidence, and tested all the arguments, you will ultimately be confronted with this question. In Mathew 16:15, Jesus put it this way, 'But who do you say that I am?' One of His disciples, Simon Peter, replied: 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' What is your reply?
John 1 v1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
John 10:30-38 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Matthew 16:13-17 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Mark 14:61-64 61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Colossians 1:16 For by him (JESUS) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
John 12:40-41 40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. 41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
A Proof word from History "Flavius Josephus"
The Jewish Antiquities are a kind of world history, and Flavius Josephus' view is biblical. In the past, God used the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians and Greeks to punish or to rescue His chosen people; now it was the Roman's turn to punish them. This was something the Greeks and Romans of his age could understand all too well. In almost every case, you can read 'Fortune' or 'Destiny' or 'Fate' instead of 'God'; on the other hand, when Flavius Josephus uses one of these common pagan expressions, he must have had the Jewish God in mind.
One of the most remarkable passages in the Jewish Antiquities is the 'Testimonium Flavianum':
At this time there appeared Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one should call him a man. For he was a doer of startling deeds, a teacher of the people who receive the truth with pleasure. And he gained a following both among many Jews and among many of Greek origin. He was the Messiah. And when Pilate, because of an accusation made by the leading men among us, condemned him to the cross, those who had loved him previously did not cease to do so. For he appeared to them on the third day, living again, just as the divine prophets had spoken of these and countless other wondrous things about him. And up until this very day the tribe of Christians, named after him, has not died out.
[Jewish Antiquities, 18.63-64]
It is unlikely that a pious Jew like Flavius Josephus would have written that Jesus 'appeared to them on the third day, living again'; consequently, there has been a lot of scholarly debate about the explanation of this strange remark. Some argued that we had to admit that Flavius Josephus had become a Christian; others maintained that it was made up by some Byzantine monk who copied the Jewish Antiquities. The latter explanation can be ruled out because a more or less identical text had been found in an Arabian translation of a part of the Jewish Antiquities. In 1991, John Meier has suggested that Josephus did in fact mention Jesus, but that the text was glossed by a Christian author. His reconstruction of the text is as follows:
At this time there appeared Jesus, a wise man. For he was a doer of startling deeds, a teacher of the people who receive the truth with pleasure. And he gained a following both among many Jews and among many of Greek origin. And when Pilate, because of an accusation made by the leading men among us, condemned him to the cross, those who had loved him previously did not cease to do so. And up until this very day the tribe of Christians, named after him, has not died out.
Even in this reconstruction, this text is of monumental importance. Not only is Flavius Josephus the only first century non-Christian writer mentioning Jesus' life, teachings and death independently of the of the gospels, but he also suggests that Jesus was innocent. A straightforward report would have told that Pilate executed the man from Nazareth because he was considered to be the king of the Jews. But instead of naming the accusation, the Jewish historian names the accusers. Since he usually delights in writing about the deserved punishment of rebels and pretenders, the fact that he does not inform us of the charge, means that he thought that Jesus was innocent.
Study with us. Dillard Munsell dillmunsell@yahoo.com 6:30

Now faith is the substance!

2007-05-26T05:41:00.000-07:00

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen."
Hebrews 11:1

What is faith?
A. The Bible gives its own definition of faith.
Hebrews 11:1
B. Scripture says that believing God is the greatest thing we can do.
John 6:28-29 28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
(Even Jesus marveled at the centurion's faith) Matthew 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
C. There is a difference, however, between having faith & believing. "Read this two times"
1. The faith God requires is more than a factual knowledge of His Person.
Even the demons know who Jesus was.
Mark 1:24 24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
Mark 5:7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
2. There must be an outworking of that inner conviction. Faith is perfeted
(Completed, matured) in works. James 2:18.Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
D. Unbelief is sin.
John 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
II. Every individual has been given a measure of faith
(Rom 12:3), For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Mat 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
A. But faith grows.
Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
2 Thessalonians 1:3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;
B. Faith must be tried, to be proven true.
Psalms 18:30, As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.Psalms 105:19 Until the time that his word came: the word of the LORD tried him.
James 1:3, 4 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
1 Peter 1:6, 7 6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: 7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

C. It can be disturbed (overthrown) & lost through useless disputations, false
doctrine, and "vain babblings."
2 Timothy 2:16-18 / 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
III. How is faith increased?
A. Worship.
Romans 4:16-21 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, 17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. 18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. 19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Colossians 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Jude 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
B. The Word of God.

1. The spoken ("rhema") word.
John 4:39-42; 39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.41 And many more believed because of his own word; 42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. Acts 4:4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
2. The written Word.
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
C. Prayer.
Mark 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
D. Miracles (signs & wonders).
Exodus 4:30-31 30 And Aaron spake all the words which the LORD had spoken unto Moses, and did the signs in the sight of the people. 31 And the people believed: and when they heard that the LORD had visited the children of Israel, and that he had looked upon their affliction, then they bowed their heads and worshipped.
Acts 9:42 And it was known throughout all Joppa; and many believed in the Lord.
John 2:23; Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
John 7:31 And many of the people believed on him, and said, When Christ cometh, will he do more miracles than these which this man hath done?
John 11:45 Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
E. Fulfillment of prophecy.
John 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

IV. We need not strive for faith. It is given to us freely by God.
Acts 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.
A. "Faith cometh."
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
B. It is a gift (unearned).
John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
I Corinthians 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
C. "Your faith groweth." (It is a fruit of the Spirit--not a work of the flesh.)
Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
2 Thessalonians 1:3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;
D. Its Author & Source is God, not our will.
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
V. Faith is one of six of the most basic & fundamental doctrines of the New Testament.
Hebrews 6:1, 2 Therefore leaving the (six) principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. (Should already live and know?)
http://keepinminddavedill.blogspot.com/2006/12/six-principles-or-oracles-of-god-is_10.html
A. Without faith there can be no salvation.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Romans 5:1-2 1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

B. Without faith we cannot stand victoriously in spiritual warfare against the enemy.
Ephesians 6:16 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.1 Peter 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
C. Without faith we cannot worship God.
Hebrews 3:1919So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. Hebrews 11:7 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
D. Without faith we cannot know the blessings of answered prayer.
Mark 11:22-24 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
James 1:6-7 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
E. Without faith, we cannot even profit from the Word of God.
Hebrews 4:22 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
F. Without faith, God's promise of healing is made void to us.
Matthew 8:13 13 And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
Matthew 9:28-30 28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. 30 And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know it.
Luke 17:19 19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.
Acts 3:16 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
Acts14:9 9 The same heard Paul speak: who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,
James 5:14-16 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
G. Without faith, we cannot minister deliverance.
Matthew 17:19-20 19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
H. Without faith, we cannot enter into God's rest.
Hebrews 3:18 18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Hebrews 4:2-3 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
I. Without faith, we cannot inherit the many promises of God.
Hebrews 6:12 12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Hebrews11:33 33Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.
J. Without fiath, we cannot operate in the gifts of the Spirit.
Romans 12:6 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
K. Without a consistent life of faith, we cannot know the joy of our salvation.
Romans 15:13 13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 16:34 34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.
1 Peter 1:8 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
L. "Without faith, it is impossible to please Him."
Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
VI. The world says that seeing is believing. But Jesus said, "Blessed are they which have not
seen, and yet believe." For "faith is ... the evidence of things not seen."
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Hebrews 11:11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Dillard Munsell Bible study Wed. 6:30 dillmunsell@yahoo.com

The leaders who don’t lord it over

2007-04-12T04:45:00.000-07:00

The leaders who don’t lord it over, but serve those they lead, will change the world through the people they serve.
Our democratic, capitalistic society has always rewarded those who rise to the top with money, power, glory, and independence. But the big question is what they do when they get there. Do they drive big cars, have lots of servants, push people around and live to read about it in the paper the next day? This image is so prevalent that we have come to expect it from star athletes, entertainment celebrities, CEO’s, and your average everyday lottery winner. We know what to expect.
But leaders like this don’t change anyone, other than to make them jealous or resentful. Consider Jesus – one who could have had the world at his feet, instead, got down on his hands and knees at the feet of those he was leading. He could have had riches and he chose to be poor. He commanded all power, but used it to heal the sick. He could have been known far and wide, but he chose to remain obscure. The only kings he ever entertained visited him when he was but a child, before anyone knew who he was. He could have come down from the cross and brought hell to pay on his accusers, but he chose to stay there and die for us.
And what exactly did he say about leadership? “The greatest among you must be a servant.” (Matthew 23:11) Of course he would say this because this is what he did, and how can anyone be greater than he? If you are filling any kind of leadership position, from assistant soccer coach to CEO, think about how you can serve those you lead.
Once I had the privilege of meeting two brothers that owned a manufacturing company. These two guys walk among their people. They don’t throw their weight around; they throw themselves around, meeting all the needs they can. They are committed to the families of their employees and they provide counseling services for those with more serious problems. They very rarely fire anyone. If there is a problem, they really try and fix it. They take a personal responsibility for the welfare of every family. They go to bed at night wondering how everybody is. Every Christmas, they throw a banquet for their employees and their families, followed by an overnight stay at a local hotel with an indoor swimming pool. (That is a big deal in December) They are following Christ’s model of leadership, and they are making a difference in the lives of the people they serve.
The message today is to think about those we are serving today and how they are doing. How can we make it better for them? Christ will then be evident in you.
G/B Rod ……………………….Las Vegas

Will our our forefathers be in the resurrection?

2007-01-25T15:22:00.000-08:00

1 Corinthians 10;1-4 1 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. (Christ preached to them through Moses?) Sounds like it!!)

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. KJV

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. (These people were justified before Christ was born and died.)
(You will notice there was no law before Moses, only Faith and Grace.) (If you will notice also our forefathers had a lot of faith.

(They pleased God without the law.!!)

Hebrews 11;1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders (our forefathers) obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous. (UH???)
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; (as a normal man.)
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. (Our forefathers lived by faith.) There was no Jew or Gentile in those days.

7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
8 By faith Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.16 For he hath prepared for them a city.
20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
21 By faith Jacob blessed both the sons of Joseph;
24 By faith Moses 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
26 "Esteeming the reproach of Christ" greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. Christ back then??? Yes!!

27 By faith he forsook Egypt as seeing him who is invisible.
29 By faith they passed through the Red sea

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not.
35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; (NOTICE>)that they might obtain a better resurrection:

38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. (THINK!!!>Will God put them together with the (US) at the resurrection? Was the promise the Holy Spirit the one at Pentecost? They were not alive at Pentecost!!) THINK!!! Can you help me understand this?

Tribes of Israel and their Stones.
Tribe of Juda------Stone Jasper / Jews
Tribe of Rueben-----Stone Sapphire
Tribe of Gad----Stone Chalcedoney
Tribe of Asher---- Stone Emerald
Tribe of Nephthalim----Stone Sardonex
Tribe of Manasses---- Stone Sardius
Tribe of Semion---- stone Chrysolite
Tribe of Levi----Stone Beryl
Tribe of Issacher----- Stone Topaz
Tribe of Zabulon-----Stone Chrysoprasus
Tribe of Joseph----Stone Jacinth
Tribe of Benjamin-----Stone Amathyst

Dillard Munsell dillmunsell@yahoo.com

BE CIRCUMCISED OF THE HEART

2006-12-20T00:50:00.000-08:00

Does God say what He means, and does He mean what He says? Do the words: ‘out of the mouth of babes and infants you have ordained strength’ mean more than just dealing with spiritual babes? God commanded ancient Israelites to circumcise their males on the eighth day for a very important reason. God has planned for the nation of Israel after the the church is "changed" during the millennium to preach Jesus to the world. Israel is an inheritance for our gentile children far greater than what we have been taught so far! Not another nation was commaned to be circumcised. God made a covenant with Abraham, "not us gentiles". untill he called Paul and then Peter heard us speak with tongues and magnify God.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, (Water) both men and women.14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, Question? have you received the word of god? "Notice" they sent unto them Peter and John: Question? What for, They had received the word of god. OK
Acts 8:9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
Acts 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, (Water) he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. Water did not help this believer! Or any other believer, only the Holy Spirit helps a believer. Was Philips labor of teaching all in vain? Sad it is for some.
Acts 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 "Notice after believing" (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. In Hebrews 6:1-2Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, NOTICE THEY HAD THE HOLY GHOST AND THE WORD)as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? ("Notice same way but no water and "uncircumcised") Did This change all their hearts? NO!!
Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 "If they shall fall away", to renew them again unto repentance; ( Hebrews 6:1) seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. "Was this the case of Simon?" Or someone who received the gift of the Holy Spirit? Was it the case of God cutting the Jew off in Romans? NO Us gentiles need to understand Romans Chapter 9,10,11. You cannot fall away from something you never had???. Sorry!
After Christ comes in his glory we want have to wonder about these scripts. Paul warned us that there would be a great falling away of the faith after he departed, "this surley happened."But can you imagine a kingdom where everyone, both young and old, is circumcised of heart? The millennium setting in the Bible portrays a far different youth than we see today: a generation of healthy, intelligent and farsighted youth. They play around the elderly and learn from them. Children are able to walk alongside the lion and the lamb and play with snakes. A setting of peace and harmony between men and beasts. The children teach the kings and queens of the earth.There is a reason for this to take place. It comes from within the heart of man a changed heart a heart motivated and taught by the Spirit of God. The Gift of truth .This is prophetic of the messianic age, a time when the knowledge of the Lord is spread throughout the whole earth a time when the Spirit of God is poured out upon all flesh. There is more to the story than this. The nation of Israel is going to be given a ‘new heart’ and will be used by God to teach other nations the way to peace. But, most interesting is the role to be played by the children. Read on and you will have your mind opened to one of the most hopeful messages that you can teach your children a message of hope for today’s parents a spiritual inheritance for the nation of Israel a message tied to circumcision and that of the heart. When a church is denying the restoration of Isreal they have backed away from bible prophecies.
His First coming to the Israelites and their promise, rejection and return to him JESUS in five verses.
Micah 5:2-5 2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.(NOTICE>3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor gives birth and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites. NIV. (IN ISRAEL AS ONE NATION see Ezek Ch: 36,37,38,39,) 4 He will stand and shepherd his flock in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God. And they will live securely, (1948-for ever ) for then his (Christ) greatness will reach to the ends of the earth. 5 And he will be their (The jews) peace. NIV (Notice After Israel accepts their messiah they will reach to the ends of the earth with the Gospel after the end of the Gentiles times. see Luke.21:24 A change is coming on this old earth.
Luke 21:24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 1967 Israel took Jersulam back again fulfilling Jer. 3:16-17 In those days, (1967 ?) when your numbers have increased greatly in the land," declares the LORD, "men will no longer say, 'The ark of the covenant of the LORD.' It will never enter their minds or be remembered; it will not be missed, nor will another one be made. 17 At that time they will call Jerusalem The Throne of the LORD, and all nations will gather in Jerusalem to honor the name of the LORD. No longer will they follow the stubbornness of their evil hearts. (No kidding?? No longer will they follow the stubbornness of their evil hearts.)
Hosea 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. ( He Jesus has returned to them in Isreal.) 3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. Read James 5th chapter James is adressed to the twelve tribes of Isreal.
James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. (I can't wait!!)
Zechariah 22-23 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD. 23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? Believe in him and you will be saved.
Malachi 4:5 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah (John) before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse. "Father" God bless the little children."Dillard Munsell Bible study / Wed. 6:30 dillmunsell@yahoo.com http://keepinminddavedill.blogspot.com
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Bnei Menashe-Tribe of (Manasses)

2006-11-26T20:29:00.000-08:00

Bnei Menashe-Tribe of (Manasses)
Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
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"Some Israelis are more willing to give land to Palestinians than to give a warm bed to brothers who left a long time ago," says Esther Thangsom, 24, who came to Israel 18 months ago. "Others go out of their way to welcome us back."
But it doesn't matter whether people make the way home easy or hard, because God helps us," she says in her calm and gentle manner. "We're a patient people. We've waited almost 3,000 years; we can wait a few years longer."
Thangsom is part of a new immigrant community in Israel that now numbers 340. They are known as Bnei Menashe, or Shinlung, names acquired at different stages of their long journey. The first signifies their belief that they're descended from the Israelite tribe. According to their tradition they lived as part of the Hebrew nation till the days of the First Temple, when they fled east from the Assyrian conquerors of 744 B.C.E. and, 400 years later, farther east still from the armies of Alexander the Great, through Tibet and into China. Believing they were the only Jews left, they lived quietly under the Chinese until the Middle Ages. Late in the thirteenth century they were threatened once again-by conversion to Christianity. They fled south to Indochina, where they acquired their second name. For two generations they found refuge in a remote valley of caves; Shinlung means cave dwellers. The Chinese eventually found them, seized their holy parchment (which they believe was the Torah) and drove them into today's Thailand and Burma. From here many migrated into the north Indian provinces of Mizoram and Manipur, where it is estimated 1.25 million to 4 million live today. There are 10,000 actively Jewish Bnei Menashe in 13 towns. Of this number 3,500 have formally converted to Orthodox Judaism.
"We never felt we belonged in India," asserts Ruth Thangsom, 25, Esther's sister. The family comes from Manipur and their features, like those of other Bnei Menashe, are Mongolian. "We felt lost. We don't look like Indians, we don't think like them or identify with them. We were sojourners. We always knew we belonged to the land and people of Israel. In college, when I was studying for my B.A. in English literature, I used to think: What I want more than anything is to be in Israel, where I can live according to the Torah and the mitzvot." "I grew up with a longing to be Jewish and to come to Israel," says Esther, a psychologist who is studying social work. "I used to tell my friends at boarding school in New Delhi: "I'm not Indian. It's a geographical and political mistake that I'm here. One day, I'll live in Israel."
"I've wanted to come to Israel ever since my midteens when I [found out about] Israel," says Shmuel Joram, 38, a draftsman who grew up in Mizoram. Like so many Bnei Menashe he speaks quietly and repectfully, but with determination and conviction. Today Joram, the Thangsom sisters and their brother Yitzhak, 30, an economist, all live in Jerusalem. They have formally converted to Judaism and are citizens. If they don't yet feel Israeli, they have a strong sense of having found their place. "In my heart, I resented undergoing conversion when I feel so utterly Jewish," says Yitzhak with controlled dignity. "But as our path back to our roots was through Christianity, I accept it was necessary."
After the loss of their precious parchment, they nursed a tradition that one day a white man would come to return their holy books. When a Reverend Pettigrew arrived in India from Britain in 1813, ablaze with Baptist fervor and copies of the Christian Bible, the Bnei Menashe believed the prophecy had been fulfilled. Large parts of the book, from Adam and Eve to the Exodus from Egypt, echoed their oral tradition. Within a decade, the whole community was Christian.
"Our grandfather was orphaned young and raised by missionaries," says Yitzhak. "That's how our family became Christian. Our father reversed it. He was a deeply religious man who sought the truth. I remember him giving me a siddur and telling me: Judaism is the true faith."
The way back was shown by a community member who came to be regarded as a modern-day prophet. "His name was Challa Mala," explains Joram. "In the 1950's, he had a vision that the Bnei Menashe were Israelites. His vision ignited the community. They stopped working and began preparing to return to Israel, expecting daily the appearance of the Messiah. A delegation was sent to the Israeli consulate in Calcutta."
This first attempt to return collapsed quickly in the face of opposition from local Indian authorities and Jewish leaders. But a connection had been forged and the Bnei Menashe stayed in touch with Jewish communities in Calcutta and Bombay 600 miles away. Members like the elder Thangsom embraced their Judaism.
"When you find the truth it hits your heart," Joram says. "I remember my father weeping because he had found the true faith."
In the 1970's a group of educated middle-class Bnei Menashe made a formal decision to return to Judaism. They built synagogues, took on Sabbath observance and brit mila. It was shortly after this that Rabbi Eliyahu Avihail first heard of them; one of the many letters they wrote asking for help in coming to Israel was passed along to him. "I was interested, of course," Avihail says. After several attempts he obtained permission to go into Manipur and Mizoram, an area closed because of a border conflict. He also met community representatives in Calcutta and managed to bring two of them to study in Israeli yeshivot, so they could return to India as Jewish teachers.
"The more I got to know the community, the more certain I became that their tradition was true and they were indeed descended from the tribe of Menashe," says Avihail. "Their customs are very close to prerabbinical Judaism. They have songs thousands of years old, with words from the Bible. One is: 'Let us go to Zion!' even though they didn't even know what Zion was. They give their children names unknown in the surrounding Indian community, such as Apram, Yakov, Sinai and Shilo. Among their customs are white garments for the kohen, an altar and animal sacrifices. The kohen will not speak God's name. They have a garment that resembles blue and white tzitziot. The eating of blood is prohibited. They have laws of family purity and follow a lunar calendar. Corpses are seen as impure.
"All this is too close to be coincidence-and too far to have been recently brought to them. These are ancient customs, corrupted over time."
In their scrolls there were strange stories about Adam and Eve, the Flood, Avihail points out. "The Tower of Babel, for example, was built to wage war on God, Who turned the stones to poison, whereupon the builders forgot their language and were dispersed."
Avihail began his long struggle on their behalf. "In 1988 we made a symbolic beginning, converting 24 in Calcutta," he says. "But then as now Israel's interior ministry reaction was: Do you want to submerge Israel with these people? But I persisted, and ended up pleading the case before the Supreme Court. It found in our favor and in 1989 I brought over the first group and settled them in Kfar Etzion."
Avihail's aim is to bring the 10,000 or so Bnei Menashe who are today practicing, if not yet converted, Jews. With every incoming group, however, he faces a major struggle. "In 1993 I brought [some] with the help of the Christian Embassy in Jerusalem, which paid for the plane," he says. "Days before they were due, a scare story was leaked to the Hebrew press that 'untouchables' were about to flood the country. This delayed their aliya by seven months-and they'd already sold their homes and businesses. I turned to the Lubavitcher rebbe, who was then very sick. 'Should I be doing this?' I asked him. 'Yes!' he said. 'Bring them to Israel!'"
"Israel's Chief Rabbinate has been good to us," says Yitzhak. "They insist on a full Orthodox conversion [bet din and mikve] but I think they go easier on us than on other converts by not making us wait months before being called to the bet din. They recognize our genuine faith. The absorption ministry has also been helpful and is giving [us] temporary resident status so we can live in absorption centers while we study Hebrew and Judaism.
"But the interior ministry is very different. They delayed granting us citizenship for almost a year after the bet din converted us. Their tactics included streams of questions about our conversion, like: How did you step into the mikve? They insisted each of us produce a full genealogical tree. It was only when we threatened to go to the Supreme Court that they gave us our citizenship papers."
Today the Bnei Menashe are scattered throughout the country; they have settled in and are doing well. Some are in higher education, others run small businesses, many live on settlements-Kiryat Arba, Ofra, Beit El, Eilon Moreh and Gush Katif. Most are politically right wing ("We all want peace," says Esther), all are ready to serve in the army, and all, without exception, are religiously observant.
Some are married to English-speakers from the United Kingdom, Canada and the United States (Yehoshua Wertheime of Boston, for example, has married into the community); others have married Jews from other Indian communities (like Elisheva Ganteh who married Yehuda Ben Eliayahu, originally from Cochin); but most, like the Thangsoms and Joram, hope to marry within their own community.
"We didn't know all these people in India, but we feel very close," says Ruth. "There's always somewhere to go on Shabbat and festivals and we share one another's weddings and bar mitzvas. There are already sabra Bnei Menashe in the community."
The Thangsoms and Joram are still living and studying in the Nahalat Zvi yeshiva, where they prepared for conversion. "It's home to us," Joram says. "The rosh yeshiva [yeshiva head] totally accepts us 'raw' from India. He carries the spark of holiness within him. I'm planning to stay on for another year. Then I'll think about my career and how to earn money and settle down."
Ruth, too, wants to continue her Jewish studies. "Without learning you miss out on what it takes to be a Jew," she says. "Every Jew needs to find his own path, but you can't find it without knowledge." After full-time study, she'd like to teach.
"You have to be educated in your faith," says Esther. "We'd be missing the point of being in Israel if we didn't know how to connect with God. Being in Israel is not enough. The soul is important, too."
For the remaining Bnei Menashe in India who are interested in living a Jewish life, moving to Israel would be more than enough for the moment. Many enjoy comfortable middle class lives, but their hearts are in their ancestral land. They also faced danger 18 months ago, when their communities in Manipur were attacked by neighbors from the Naya tribe. Two synagogues were burned and several people were killed.
But this isn't why the Bnei Menashe want to come. "They want to live in Israel for the same reasons that we do," says Joram, "the same reasons that any Jew wants to live in his own land. Because it's ours. Because it's home. ("Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.)
Bnei Menashe Return to ZionPress Release February 10, 2000 http://www.bneimenashe.com/ Rabbi Eliyahu Avichail
37 Descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel Due to Arrive at Ben-Gurion Airport on Friday After Centuries of Exile, Bnei Menashe Return to Zion. (Manasses) Rev.7:6 Jerusalem An emotional scene is expected at Ben-Gurion airport early Friday as 37 descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel are set to arrive at 6:50 a.m. on EL AL flight #0076 out of Bombay. The new arrivals, members of the Bnei Menashe, are coming to Israel under the auspices of the Jerusalem-based Amishav organization, which is dedicated to locating descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel and returning them to the Jewish people. They join an additional 450 Bnei Menashe (children of the Tribe of Manasseh) already residing in the country.
This is an historic moment for the Jewish people, said Amishav founder and chairman Rabbi Eliyahu Avichail, who has devoted his life to finding and assisting the descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel. After a lengthy and difficult separation, the Bnei Menashe are being reunited with the Jewish people in the Land of Israel. Their return to Zion marks the closing of an historical circle, noted Rabbi Avichail, adding, This is a triumph of faith.
The Bnei Menashe arriving in Israel originate from two states in eastern India: Manipur and Mizoram. Members of the Shinlung tribe, they have a rich oral tradition tracing themselves back to the Israelite tribe of Manasseh and continue to practice many uniquely Jewish customs. Approximately 30 years ago, some 3,500 Bnei Menashe decided to formally return to the Jewish people and they began living a fully Jewish life to the best of their ability in accordance with Jewish law.
Two decades ago, Rabbi Avichail learned of the Bnei Menashe through an Indian Jewish acquaintance, and he traveled to India several times to investigate their claims to Jewish ancestry. After careful study of the historical record and consultations with leading rabbinical authorities, Rabbi Avichail concluded there is convincing evidence linking the Bnei Menashe with the Jewish people.
Rabbi Avichail notes, The Bnei Menashe have an ancient tradition handed down orally from generation to generation which speaks of the Patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They circumcise male children on the 8th day after birth in accordance with Jewish tradition. The Bnei Menashe conduct a sacrificial ceremony on an altar reminiscent of the ancient Jewish Temple in which their priest uses the Hebrew name of G-d as it appears in the Torah. In this ceremony, their priest invokes Mount Sinai, Mount Moriah and Mount Zion.
The Bnei Menashe are descended from the Israelite tribe of Manasseh, one of the Ten Tribes of Israel exiled by the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE. The exiles of Manasseh reached Assyria and from there, according to Bnei Menashe tradition, went to Afghanistan. From Afghanistan they went to the Himalayi (believed to be a reference to the Himalayan mountains), on to Mongolia and from there to southern China. In China, the group was persecuted because of its faith and forced to hide in caves (as a result of which they have come to be known as Shinlung, which means cave covering). Some 500 to 600 years ago, the Shinlung, or Bnei Menashe, began to wander toward their current home located on the border between India and Burma.
Upon arrival in Israel, the Bnei Menashe will engage in full-time study of Judaism and the Hebrew language to reacquaint themselves with the faith of their forefathers. To remove any doubts about their status, the Bnei Menashe undergo formal conversion ceremonies performed by the Israeli Chief Rabbinate, upon completion of which they are granted new immigrant status by the Interior Ministry. Next year in Jerusalem Dillard Munsell A Gentile

A site to see, proof of Israel coming home.

2006-11-26T16:48:00.000-08:00

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html They are going up to mount Zion.

The History of Ethiopian Jews
Introduction
"Once they were kings. A half million strong, they matched their faith with fervor and out-matched the Moslem and Christian tribesmen around them to rule the mountain highlands around Lake Tana. They called themselves Beta Israel—the house of Israel—and used the Torah to guide their prayers and memories of the heights of Jerusalem as they lived in their thatched huts in Ethiopia.
But their neighbors called them Falashas—the alien ones, the invaders. And even three hundred years of rule, even the black features that matched those of all the people around them did not make the Jews of Ethiopia secure governors of their destiny in Africa" ("Falashas: The Forgotten Jews," Baltimore Jewish Times, 9 November 1979).
For centuries, the world Jewish community was not even aware of the existence of the Jewish Community of Ethiopia in the northern province of Gondar. The miracle of Operation Solomon is only now being fully understood; an ancient Jewish community has been brought back from the edge of government-imposed exile and starvation.
But once they were kings. .
History
Christianity spread through the Axum dynasty of Ethiopia in the 4th century CE. By the 7th century, however, Islam had surpassed Christianity and had separated Ethiopia from its Christian African neighbors.
Prior to this, the Beta Israel had enjoyed relative independence through the Middle Ages. Their reign was threatened in the 13th century CE under the Solomonic Empire, and intermittent fighting continuing for the next three centuries with other tribes.
In 1624, the Beta Israel fought what would be their last battle for independent autonomy against Portuguese-backed Ethiopians. A graphic eyewitness account described the battle:
"Falasha men and women fought to the death from the steep heights of their fortress... they threw themselves over the precipice or cut each other's throats rather than be taken prisoner—it was a Falasha Masada. [The rebel leaders] burned all of the Falasha's written history and all of their religious books, it was an attempt to eradicate forever the Judaic memory of Ethiopia" (Righteous Jews Honored by Falasha Supporters, AAEJ Press Release, 1981).
Those Jews captured alive were sold into slavery, forced to be baptized, and denied the right to own land. The independence of the Beta Israel was torn from them just as it was from their Israeli brethren at Masada centuries before.
Modern Contact
The first modern contact with the now oppressed community came in 1769, when Scottish explorer James Bruce stumbled upon them while searching for the source of the Nile River. His estimates at the time placed the Beta Israel population at 100,000, already greatly decreased from an estimate from centuries before of a half-million.
Little additional contact was made with the community, but in 1935 their stability was greatly threatened as the Italian army marched into Ethiopia. Ethiopia's ruler, Emperor Haile Selassie fled his country and actually took refuge in Jerusalem for a short time. Selassie returned to power in 1941, but the situation for the Beta Israel improved little.
In 1947, Ethiopia abstained on the (United Nations partiton Plan) Partition http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/parttoc.html for the British Mandate of Palestine, which reestablished the State of Israel. By 1955, the non-governmental Jewish Agency of Israel had already begun construction of schools and a teacher's seminary for the Beta Israel in Ethiopia.
In 1956, Ethiopia and Israel established consular relations, which were improved in 1961 when the two countries established full diplomatic ties. Positive relations between Israel and Ethiopia existed until 1973, when, in the wake of the Yom Kippur War, Ethiopia (and 28 African nations) broke diplomatic relations with Israel under the threat of an Arab oil embargo.
The Mengistu Threat
Months later, Emperor Selassie's regime ended in a coup d'etat. Selassie was replaced by Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam, whose Marxist-Leninist dictatorship increased the threat to the Beta Israel. During the weeks surrounding Mariam's coup, an estimated 2,500 Jews were killed and 7,000 became homeless.
Soon Mariam instituted a policy of "villagization," relocating millions of peasant farmers onto state-run cooperatives which greatly harmed the Beta Israel by forcing them to "share" their villages—though they were denied the right to own the land—with non-Jewish farmers, resulting in increased levels of anti-Semitism throughout the Gondar Province. According to the Ethiopian government, over 30% of the population had been moved from privately owned farms to cooperatives as of 1989.
After taking office in 1977, Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin was eager to facilitate the rescue of Ethiopia's Jews, and so Israel entered into a period of selling arms to the Mariam government in hopes that Ethiopia would allow Jews to leave for Israel. In 1977, Begin asked President Mengistu to allow 200 Ethiopian Jews to leave for Israel aboard an Israeli military jet that had emptied its military cargo and was returning to Israel. Mariam agreed, and that may have been the precursor to the mass exodus of Operation Moses began.
In the early 1980's, Ethiopia forbade the practice of Judaism and the teaching of Hebrew. Numerous members of the Beta Israel were imprisoned on fabricated charges of being "Zionist spies," and Jewish religious leaders, Kesim,(sing. Kes) were harassed and monitored by the government.
The situation remained exceedingly bleak through the early 1980's. Forced conscription at age 12 took many Jewish boys away from their parents, some never to be heard from again. Additionally, with the constant threat of war, famine, and horrendous health conditions (Ethiopia has one of the world's worst infant mortality rates and doctor to patient ratios), the Beta Israel's position became more precarious as time progressed.
The government began to slightly soften its treatment of the Jews, however, during the mid- 1980's when terrible famines wreaked havoc on the economy. Ethiopia was forced to ask Western nations for famine relief, including the United States of America and Israel, allowing them both to exert a modicum of pressure for the release of the Beta Israel.
Over 8,000 Beta Israel came to Israel between 1977 and 1984. But these efforts pale in comparison with the modern exodus that took place during 1984's Operation Moses.
Operations Moses and Joshua
Under a news blackout for security reasons, Operation Moses began on November 18, 1984, and ended six weeks later on January 5, 1985. In that time, almost 8,000 Jews were rescued and brought to Israel.
But the mission was not without problems. Because of news leaks (blamed primarily on a December 6 article in the Washington Jewish Week and full page advertisements placed by the United Jewish Appeal), the mission ended prematurely as Arab nations pressured the Sudanese government to prevent any more Jews from using Sudan to go to Israel. Almost 15,0000 Jews were left behind in Ethiopia.
Thus, by the end of Operation Moses in January 1985, almost two-thirds of the Beta Israel remained in Ethiopia. They were comprised almost entirely of women, young children, and the sick, since only the strongest members of the community were encouraged to make the harrowing trek to Sudan where the airlift actually occurr. In addition, many young boys were encouraged to make the dangerous trek to freedom due to the low age of conscription, often as young as age twelve.
As Babu Yakov, a Beta Israel leader, summed up, "Those who could not flee are elderly, sick, and infants. Those least capable of defending themselves are now facing their enemies alone."
In 1985, then Vice President George Bush arranged a CIA-sponsored follow-up mission to Operation Moses. Operation Joshua brought an additional 800 Beta Israel from Sudan to Israel. But in the following five years, a virtual stalemate occurred in the rescue of Ethiopian Jewry. All efforts on behalf of the Beta Israel fell on the closed ears of the Mariam dictatorship.
Meanwhile, those Jews who did escape during Operation Moses were separated from their loved ones while attempting to adjust to Israeli society. The new arrivals spent between six months and two years in absorption centers learning Hebrew, being retrained for Israel's industrial society, and learning how to live in a modern society (most Ethiopian villages had no running water or electricity). Suicide, all but unheard of in their tukuls in Ethiopia, even claimed a few of the new arrivals due to the anxiety of separation and departure.
Over 1,600 "orphans of circumstance" lived day to day separated from their families, not knowing the fate of their parents, brothers, sisters, and loved ones.
Operation Solomon—The Fulfillment of a Dream
The grim prospect of thousands of Jewish children growing up separated from their parents in Israel almost became a reality. Little could be done to persuade the Mariam government to increase the trickle of Jews leaving Ethiopia in the years between Operations Joshua and Solomon. But in November 1990, Ethiopia and Israel reached an agreement that would allow Ethiopian Jews to move to Israel under the context of family reunification. It soon became clear, however, that Mengistu was willing to allow Ethiopian Jews to leave outside of the guise of reunification. November and December, 1990, showed increased numbers of Ethiopians leaving for Israel. The Ethiopian Jews were finally ready to come home.
In early 1991, Eritrean and Tigrean rebels began a concerted attack on Mengistu forces, meeting with surprising success for the first time since the civil war began in 1975. With the rebel armies advancing each day, Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam fled his country in early May. Rebels claimed control of the capital Addis Ababa shortly thereafter, and the situation of the Beta Israel took top priority in Israel. The Likud government of Yitzhak Shamir authorized a special permit for the Israeli airline, El Al, to fly on the Jewish Sabbath. On Friday, May 24, and continuing non-stop for 36 hours, a total of 34 El Al jumbo jets and Hercules C-130s—seats removed to accommodate the maximum number of Ethiopians—began a new chapter in the struggle for the freedom of Ethiopian Jewry.
Operation Solomon, named for the king from whom one of the theories suggest that the Beta Israel draw their lineage, ended almost as quickly as it began. Timing was crucial, since any delay by Israel could have allowed the rebels to hold the Jews as bargaining chips with Israel or the United States. A total of 14,324 Ethiopian Jews were rescued and resettled in Israel, a modern exodus of the grandest design. Operation Solomon rescued twice the number of Jews in Operation Moses and Joshua, in a mere fraction of the time. Though it is too early to predict their impact on Israeli society, the 36,000 Ethiopian Jews now living in Israel (rescue efforts are under way to transport the remaining 2,100 Ethiopians who wish to emigrate to Israel) will play an important role in Israel for generations to come.
Authentic Jews
Because much of the Beta Israel's history is passed orally from generation to generation, we may never truly know their origins. Four main theories exist concerning the beginnings of the Beta Israel community:
1) The Beta Israel may be the lost Israelite tribe of Dan.
2) They may be descendants of Menelik I, son of King Solomon and Queen Sheba.
3) They may be descendants of Ethiopian Christians and pagans who converted to Judaism centuries ago.
4) They may be descendants of Jews who fled Israel for Egypt after the destruction of the First Temple in 586 BCE and eventually settled in Ethiopia.
(Excerpted from "Reunify Ethiopian Jewry," World Union of Jewish Students)
Without regard as to which theory may actually be correct (and each theory has its support), the authenticity of the "Jewishness" of the community became an issue.
As early as the 16th century, Egypt's Chief Rabbi David ben Solomon ibn Avi Zimra (Radbaz) declared that in Halachic (Jewish legal) issues, the Beta Israel were indeed Jews. In 1855, Daniel ben Hamdya, a member of the Beta Israel, was the first Ethiopian Jew to visit Israel, meeting with a council of rabbis in Jerusalem concerning the authenticity of the Beta Israel. By 1864, almost all leading Jewish authorities, most notably Rabbi Azriel Hildsheimer of Eisenstadt, Germany, accepted the Beta Israel as true Jews. In 1908 the chief rabbis of forty-five countries had heeded Rabbi Hildsheimer's call and officially recognized the Beta Israel as fellow Jews.
In reaffirming the Radbaz's position centuries before, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, Israel's Chief Sephardic Rabbi, stated in 1972, "I have come to the conclusion that Falashas are Jews who must be saved from absorption and assimilation. We are obliged to speed up their immigration to Israel and educate them in the spirit of the holy Torah, making them partners in the building of the Holy Land."
In 1975, Ashkenazic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren wrote to the Beta Israel telling them, "You are our brothers, you are our blood and our flesh. You are true Jews." Later that same year the Israeli Interministerial Commission officially recognized the Beta Israel as Jews under Israel's Law of Return, a law designed to aid in Jewish immigration to Israel. The Beta Israel were ready to come home.
Indeed, the Beta Israel were strictly observant in pre-Talmudic Jewish traditions. The women went to the mikvah, or ritual bath, just as observant Jewish women do to this day, and they continue to carry out ancient festivals, such as Seged, that have been passed down through the generations of Beta Israel. The Kesim, or religious leaders, are as widely revered and respected as the great rabbis in each community, passing the Jewish customs through storytelling and maintaining the few Jewish books and Torahs some communities were fortunate enough to have written in the liturgical language of Ge'ez.
Jewish Apathy . . .and its Defeat
The struggle to free the Beta Israel was not fought solely against the Ethiopian government. Much like some timid Jewish leaders during the Holocaust, some recent Jews sought to prevent a shanda fur de goyim (an embarrassment in front of the non-Jews) by not stirring up waves over Ethiopian Jewry.
The history of the Beta Israel's rescue is at times open to debate regarding the heroes of the Ethiopian Jewry movement. As with many struggles to free oppressed Jewry around the world, many advocated and vocalized opposition to those responsible for the lack of action on their behalf. Others, however, argued for a more quiet diplomacy, void of the public demonstrations and arrests that marked the struggle for Soviet Jewry.
Though over 8,000 Beta Israel managed to flee to Israel during his tenure, it was an Israeli official in charge of the Ethiopian Jews' absorption who may best symbolize the insensitivity that an extreme minority of people once held. Yehuda Dominitz who served as Director General of the Jewish Agency's Department of Immigration and Absorption, declared in 1980 that, "[taking] a Falasha (sic) out of his village, it's like taking a fish out of water...I'm not in favor of bringing them [to Israel]." Dominitz also refused to allow his agency to rent buses so Ethiopian Jews in Israel could travel to Jerusalem to observe their ancient holiday of Seged (Dominitz eventually relented, but had the buses take the Beta Israel to Haifa instead of Jerusalem).
Malkah Raymist, a writer for the World Zionist Organization, wrote in 1956 in The Jewish Horizon (of the Hapoel Hamizrachi of America Movement) that, "the reasons [for not bringing Ethiopian Jews to Israel] are simple and weighty. On one hand, they are well off where they are, while their development and mental outlook is that of children; they could fall an easy prey of exploitation, if brought here without any preparation. On the other hand, being a backward element, they would be and it would take several years before they could be educated towards a minimum of progressive thinking."
In an American Association for Ethiopian Jews (AAEJ) press release, the AAEJ quoted its founder, Dr. Graenum Berger, as criticizing those who sought any delay in the rescue of the Beta Israel. Berger declared, "Not when Jews are dying...these revelations show once again that the policy of influencing factions of the government of Israel always have been against the immigration of the Ethiopian Jews. And, the same people who controlled their immigration then are controlling it now. These are the same people who gave instructions to the Israeli Embassy in Ethiopia (1956-1973) not to issue immigration visas to any Jew from Ethiopia."
Berger himself came under criticism for his outspoken remarks concerning the Israeli efforts to rescue the Beta Israel, showing that nobody was immune from the rhetoric surrounding the issue.
(See also) http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/falashmura.html
(See also (Law of return) http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Immigration/Text_of_Law_of_Return.html
From the (Jewish Virtual Library) http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/index.html Next Year IN Jerusalem

These people from abraham brought us to Jesus

2006-11-26T15:28:00.000-08:00

Why are we there? To take back our land.

Arabs only came to the Land of Israel in large numbers after the Jews returned in the 20th century and started to rebuild the nation, thereby creating economic and employment opportunities for Arab immigrants.
Prior to 1870, when Jews started to return to the Holy Land in large numbers, there were fewer than 100,000 Arabs living in what is today the State of Israel - including Yesha (The Hebrew acronym for Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District). This small number of nomadic, tribal Arabs who lived in the Holy Land before the modern Jewish return never considered themselves to be a separate people or nation.
The Arabs who lived in the Land of Israel were not "Palestinians" but Arabs - part of a huge Arab people with 22 very large independent nations that control one-ninth of the land mass on the planet Earth.
Israel is anything but a mistake, and history shows the justice of Israel's cause. With the exception of the period between the two Jewish Temples between roughly 586 and 516 BCE, Jews ruled this land continuously from approximately 1300 BCE until 68 CE. Since that time, no other government has been based in Israel, no other country has called Jerusalem its capital, and no other people has called this land its home. It is not history that is Israel's enemy but the false narrative of history presented to the World by the Arab Muslims. It is not history that is Israel's enemy, but Arab attempts to wipe out the vestiges of that history, as if destroying all of the Temple artifacts on the Temple Mount will confirm that it was 'always' Haram al-Sharif, that two Jewish Temples never stood there and that Jesus never argued with money changers there.
This country was deserted swampland for much of the period between 68 CE and the beginning of the return of larger numbers of Jews started in 1870. Israel's interior areas were mainly a desert-like wasteland while her coast was a malaria-ridden swamp. But Jews always prayed three times a day that God should gather them in from their diaspora and bring them back to this country. Many Jews attempted to come here on their own. Jews were a majority of the population of Jerusalem in the 19th century, and settled many of the cities of the Galilee as well. In 1844 - when the Land of Israel was controlled by the Turkish Muslims - the Turkish census counted 7,120 Jews and 5,000 Muslims living in Jerusalem. Thus, Jerusalem was already a Jewish city 160 years ago. Until an Arab massacre wiped them out in 1929, there was even a large Jewish community in Hebron, which included a major Talmudical academy, which was transplanted from the village of Slobodka in Lithuania.
Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of the history of the Middle East knows that the Jewish claim to Jerusalem is much stronger than the Palestinian claim. Jerusalem is to the Jews what Rome is to the Catholics, but to the Muslims Jerusalem is merely an imperialistic trophy and an excuse for fighting.

Israeli rules for aliyah creates Israelis but not Jews.
One area where the traditional definition of Jew is not followed by the Israeli government is in deciding who qualifies to make aliyah ("immigrate [to Israel]") and acquire citizenship under the Law of Return.
The requirements here differ significantly from the definition of a Jew under halakha, in permitting anyone with only one Jewish grandparent, or as non-Jewish spouses of Jews, to move to Israel. A person with only one Jewish grandparent is presently allowed to make aliyah but that does not confer the status of Jew upon that person according to Jewish law neither in Israel nor anywhere else.
Thus, because the secular Israeli Law of Return functions in far broader terms than would be allowed according to Judaisms's definition of "Who is a Jew?" it is consequently estimated that as a result of the easing of standards, in the past twenty years, about 300,000 avowed non-Jews and even practicing Christians have entered Israel from the former Soviet Union on the basis of claiming to have one Jewish grandparent or by being married to a Jew. The net result has been that Israel has not resolved the question of how such a large group of immigrants who are now Israelis but who are still not Jews should be formally converted to Judaism.
Current Israeli definitions however, specifically excludes Jews who have openly and knowingly converted to a faith other than Judaism. This definition is not the same as that in traditional Jewish law; in some respects it is a deliberately wider, so as to include those non-Jewish relatives of Jews who may have been perceived to be Jewish, and thus faced anti-Semitism, but in other respects it is narrower, as the traditional definition includes apostate Jews
Aliyah (Hebrew: עלייה, "ascent" or "going up") is a term widely used to mean Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel (and since its establishment in 1948, the State of Israel). The opposite action, Jewish emigration away from Israel, is called Yerida ("descent"). Next year in Jerusalem!!!

A change for the nations.

2006-11-11T04:44:00.000-08:00

I am glad this is in Gods hands and not mine. Written in the book so we gentiles may know that we have life because of their unbelif and soon the land of Israel will be filled with JEWS from all the world and they will have their Kingdom with their King. Can you guess who?

Romans 8:1-11 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Romans 9:1-5 I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, 4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

Romans 11:11-21 11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. 12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! 13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (Ezekiel 37: "Dry bones.") 16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, 18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in." 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.

Romans 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Romans11:28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, (After they were cut off.) but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. New King James Version
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. KJV (Proof >They the Jews have come back to their land in unbelief. But soon The spirit from on high will be poured upon them.)

Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (Jesus will come to them with us.!!!)

Isaiah 32:14-16 14 Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks; 15 Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest. 16 Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Romans11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. KJV (Proof >They the Jews have come back to their land in unbelief. (But soon The spirit from on high will be poured upon them.)

Ezekiel 36:6-10 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen: 7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.8 But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. 9 For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown: 10 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded:

Zechariah 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, (JESUS) and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Isaiah 32:20 Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox (Jew) and the ass.(Gentile) ( A Jewish and Gentile ministry to the world for a thousand years.
"RUTH"> We believe a Moabite Gentile an outcast woman added her blood to the lineage of Jesus Christ. If God received her into the Messianic heritage, He will also adopt us into His Royal Priesthood if we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Dillard Munsell Bible Study 6:30 Wed.

God is confirming the words of his prophets.

2006-07-26T23:22:00.000-07:00

Many Christians have said the church has replaced Israel? The Old prophets say "NO"
Since 1948 Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.NIV

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Revelation 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. 5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000, 6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000, 7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from the tribe of Issachar 12,000, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000, from the tribe of Joseph 12,000, from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.(The future of Israel.)
Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, (Winds of war.) 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. (Not literal foreheads.) Their Hearts!!
Amos 9:14-15,14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them," says the LORD your God.
The prophet said that there would come a time when the exiles of Israel would again have Israel as their own land and that they would never be uprooted again. Amos lived about 2700 years ago, during a time when the people of Israel were being forced out of their homeland by a succession of foreign invasions. Despite many centuries of exile, many Jews returned to Israel and reclaimed sovereignty over a portion of their ancient homeland.
Joel 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
Isaiah 27:12-13 In that day the LORD will thresh from the flowing Euphrates to the Wadi of Egypt, and you, O Israelites, will be gathered up one by one. 13 And in that day a great trumpet will sound. Those who were perishing in Assyria and those who were exiled in Egypt will come and worship the LORD on the holy mountain in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 43:5-6 5 Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; 6 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
Isaiah lived 2700 years ago. Beginning at that time, a succession of empires conquered the land of Israel and many went into exile. This led to a worldwide scattering of Jews. But, during the past century, millions have returned to Israel. Many Jews living in Middle East countries moved to Israel during the 1900s. After Israel reclaimed independence in 1948, more Jews moved to their ancient homeland after being forced out of various Arab countries in which they had been living for centuries.During the mid-1900s, hundreds of thousands of Jews living in the West (Europe and the United States) began moving to Israel to escape persecutions, most notably, the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.Hundreds of thousands of Jews living in the former Soviet Union have moved to Israel since the 1980s.During the 1980s and 1990s, Israel struck a deal with Ethiopia's communist government to allow Jews of Ethiopia to move to Israel. On the weekend of May 25, 1991, for example, 14,500 Ethiopian Jews were airlifted to Israel. Their DNA proved it. Just a few weeks ago some came.Jeremiah 23:3-6 3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. 4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD. 5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. KJV
During the past few centuries, millions of exiled Jews around the world have returned to their ancient homeland. And this is one of the reasons why Christians say that the world is being prepared for the return of Jesus Christ. Because, as Jeremiah had prophesied long ago, the Messiah is to appear after the people of Israel return to their land. Jeremiah 23:5, "I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King," refers to the Messiah, and that he will be a king and a descendant of King David, who reigned over Israel about 3000 years ago. Christians believe that when Jesus returns, he will establish a kingdom of peace and righteousness.
Jeremiah 3:14-18 "Return, faithless people," declares the LORD, "for I am your husband. I will choose you—one from a town and two from a clan—and bring you to Zion. 15 Then I will give you shepherds after my own heart, who will lead you with knowledge and understanding. 16 In those days, when your numbers have increased greatly in the land," declares the LORD, "men will no longer say, 'The ark of the covenant of the LORD.' It will never enter their minds or be remembered; it will not be missed, nor will another one be made. 17 At that time they will call Jerusalem The Throne of the LORD, and all nations will gather in Jerusalem to honor the name of the LORD. No longer will they follow the stubbornness of their evil hearts. 18 In those days the house of Judah will join the house of Israel, and together they will come from a northern land to the land I gave your forefathers as an inheritance. NIV (The ark of the covenant, no temple for it?)
Ezekiel 36:1 "Son of man, prophesy to the mountains of Israel and say, 'O mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD. 2 This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
Ezekiel 36:24 24 " 'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 You will live in the land I gave your forefathers; you will be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. 30 I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. 32 I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign LORD. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, O house of Israel! NIV
The Valley of Dry Bones
Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel.(>All Israel) They say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.' 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. 14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.' "
Then to us Gentiles
Romans 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins." NIV (Notice how a full number of gentiles must come in. (No doubt to Grace and faith in Jesus our Lord.)
Ezekiel 37:21 and say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into TWO KINGDOMS.
I create new heavens and a new earth:
Israel 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. 21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; ( On earth ) and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. 22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. (Is this the new Jerusalem in Rev.21?
Rev. 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." 5 He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true." (And they shall build houses) Heaven on earth?
Isaiah 51:3 The LORD will surely comfort Zion and will look with compassion on all her ruins; he will make her deserts like Eden, her wastelands like the garden of the LORD. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and the sound of singing.
Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD. 12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, (Israel) that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory.NIV (Notice they are not saved here in this verse.)
Joel 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. 17 So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim. 19 Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land. 20 But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. 21 For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion. Dillard Munsell

WHO IS YOUR TEACHER ( THE COMFORTER?)

2006-07-14T11:44:00.000-07:00

WHO IS YOUR TEACHER ( THE COMFORTER?)
Or this great number of teachers?
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. How?> Through the Holy Spirit. THE COMFORTER

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. NIV

"Paul" Acts 20:30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears. NIV

2 Peter 2:1-3 1 "But" there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be "false teachers among you". They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. NIV

All the other shepherds will let you down. Only Jesus died and rose for you. Only he deserves your full allegiance. Do you hear his voice?
Jesus told a parable and, the people did not understand him. So he explained it: "I am the gate for the sheep"
(John 10:7) In this parable, the sheep are God’s people, and they are entering a safe place, a sheep pen, representing salvation. We enter salvation through Jesus.
They may mean well. Maybe they don’t understand who Jesus is and what he is offering. Maybe Jesus’ grace insults their ability to work hard and direct their lives on their own. Maybe they think grace sounds too easy, too cheap. Whatever the reason, if they try to achieve life’s purpose in any other way, through any other gate, they will fail.
God’s people hear the voice of Jesus and recognize it.

John 10:1-19 1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. 7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, "I am the door of the sheep." 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.16 And other sheep(?) I have, which are not of this fold:(?) them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
Dillard Munsell Bible study Wed. 6:30 PM dillmunsell@yahoo.com

God will come with vengeance!

2006-07-13T10:16:00.000-07:00

ISRAEL COMES HOME GETS TOUGH
Isaiah 35
1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:
10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

The Greatest LAND GRAB in History

2006-06-12T22:24:00.000-07:00

The Greatest LAND GRAB in History
The Greatest LAND GRAB in History, How come the church was all Jews till about three hundred AD, Most living in Isreal, then they were hunted like wolfs and killed by the so called CHURCH they built? Paul said grievous wolfs would creep in after his departure, not sparing the flock. (Jews and gentiles at his time) See early church fathers below. Notice how they turned on the Jews in their words.
Long before the Holocaust history, Christians made a revision of God’s promises to Israel. Afflicted with anti-Semitism for over seventeen hundred years, the traditional churches quickly developed "Replacement Theology,". Early church theologians wrongly concluded that Israel as a people was eternally rejected by God for having rejected Jesus. The claim is that the church is now spiritual Israel and, as such, has replaced natural Israel. I had an Uncle that used this sometimes just to make me get going good. This "Replacement Theology" is still held by most mainline Christian denominations and is now making inroads in Evangelical churches especially in the charismatic movement has fell under the theology of "Reconstructionism." This theology also falsely concludes that Israel has lost all claim to its Land. This attempt to deprive the overwhelming majority of the Jewish people since the time of Jesus of its glorious eternal destiny is the greatest theft the devil every pulled off useing people to steal the Holy land from the Jews. "Well" take a look and see who is living on the moutains of Israel today.
Ezekiel 36:9-11
9 For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown: 10 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded: 11 And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
The King James version of the Bible is replete with examples of this theology."
Chapter after chapter of Old Testament prophecies contain promises of God’s blessing to Israel and Jacob. The publishers, attempt to negate the Jewish people in these chapters by arbitrarily adding chapter headings which apply the verses to the Christian church. While at times "Israel" can be symbolic of the Church, "spiritual Israel," promises to "Jacob" always refer to "natural Israel." Whole chapters of Divine blessings and promises have been literally stolen from the Jewish people. By simply By puting in the minds of the readers a wrong concept of the real meaning. Isaiah 43, for example, God addresses His promises to "O Jacob" and "O Israel." The chapter heading arbitrarily reads in most not all King James Bibles, however, "God comforteth the Church with His promises." All of Isaiah 60 is to Isreal today, also chapter 35, 65, and many more.
The anti-Semitic spirit of "Replacement Theology" becomes evident when dealing with the chapters in the Old Testament that refer to God’s curses against Israel. In these verses, spiritualizing the meaning of "Israel" is not attempted. But whenever God’s curses to Israel appear, they are readily applied to the Jews. Above Isaiah 59 is added a heading, "The sins of the Jews." Yet in the very next chapter, Isaiah 60, these very same Jewish people are robbed by the "Replacement Theology" revisionists of their God-given promise of future glory. Note the false chapter heading in most King James Bibles, "Glory of the Church." The historian James Parkes observed: 6 But Christian theologians divided it [the Old Testament] into the story of two people...the virtuous Hebrews...had all the praise and the promises and the wicked Jews had all the crimes and denunciations. This was the interpretation [of Replacement Theology] repeated over and over again, in every possible variation, and in every century from the third century onward. (No Jews.?) "Think"> A small crack in a stone filled with frozen water will destory it."
"Replacement Theology" And the Early Church Fathers
What are the unfortunate origins of "Replacement Theology"? "Replacement Theology" had its roots in the anti-Semitism of the so called Early Church Fathers. Just take a look.
[a.d. 100.] Epistle of Barnabas The writer of this Epistle is supposed to have been an Alexandrian Jew of the times of Trajan and Hadrian.
An early Church writing, the Epistle of Barnabas, said that Jews had no future with any God-given covenant. "Do not add to your sins and say that the covenant is both theirs and ours," he insisted. "Yes! It is ours; but they thus lost it forever."7 Justin Martyr, writing to the Jewish leader Trypho (A.D. 138), quoted from the Jewish Scriptures, which he referred to as "your Scriptures, (or rather not yours, but ours.") He also stated that the "prophetical gifts, formerly among your nation have been transferred to us."8 In A.D. 387 John Chrysostom ranted, "Since the deicide, the Jews have been delivered into the hands of the demons, they are only fit to be butchered, their behavior is no better than that of swine and oxen in the gross lewdness.The synagogue is a brothel, a cave of brigands, a den of ferocious animals,"9 He also argued that when Christians beat and murder Jews, the Jews are to blame, not the Christians who had acted through "God’s will."10 Ambrose, Bishop of Milan, ordered the burning of a synagogue in A.D. 388, "so that there would be no place where Christ is rejected." In his eyes, the synagogue "was destroyed by the judgment of God. Sources"11 CHRYSOSTOM AND THE JEWS OF ANTIOCH, pp. 163-166 John Chrysostom: Eight Homilies Against the Jews. (Edward H. Flanney, THE ANGUISH OF THE JEWS: 23 CENTURIES OF ANTI-SEMITISM (New York: Macmillan, 1965), p. 31.) Ibid., p. 95.
"Replacement Theology" and Anti-Semitism
As "Replacement Theology" was begotten by the anti-Semitism of the Early Church Fathers, so Martin Luther is an example of how the acceptance of "Replacement Theology" can, in turn, beget anti-Semitism. In an article entitled, "That Jesus Was Born a Jew," dated 1523, Luther initially said:12 For they [the Catholics] have dealt with the Jews as if they were dogs and not human beings. They have done nothing for them but curse them and seize their wealth. I would advise and beg everybody to deal kindly with the Jews and to instruct them in the Scriptures; in such a case we could expect them to come over to us. We must receive them kindly and allow them to compete with us in earning a livelihood. . .and if some remain obstinate, what of it? Not everyone is a good Christian.
Martin Luther (1483-1546): On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543
Therefore a Christian should be content and not argue with the Jews. But if you have to or want to talk with them, do not say any more than this: "Listen, Jew, are you aware that Jerusalem and your sovereignty, together with your temple and priesthood, have been destroyed for over 1,460 years?" For this year, which we Christians write as the year 1542 since the birth of Christ, is exactly 1,468 years, going on fifteen hundred years, since Vespasian and Titus destroyed Jerusalem and expelled the Jews from the city. Let the Jews bite on this nut and dispute this question as long as they wish.
When the Jews did not convert as Luther expected, he wrote a pamphlet in his later years, "Concerning the Jews and Their Lies," in which he listed eight actions to be taken against the Jews:13 1 Burn all synagogues 2 Forbid Jews to travel Destroy Jewish dwellings 3 Forbid Jews to charge interest on loans to non-Jews and confiscate Jewish property 4 Confiscate the Jews’ holy books 5 Force Jews to do physical labor 6 Forbid rabbis to teach 7 Expel the Jews from provinces where Christians live. Today "Replacement" theologians also, wrongly conclude that the Jewish people have lost all rights to their Land. Accordingly, they claim all prophecies especially in the books of Isaiah and Jeremiah concerning Israel’s restoration to its historic Land were fulfilled with the return of Israel after the Babylonian captivity (536 B.C.). Then, they say, any further promises of blessing after 536 B.C. would be conditional to their faithfulness and since they proved totally unfaithful in rejecting Jesus, any further blessing as a nation or people was forfeited.
What Do the Scriptures Say?
Jeremiah 31:35-37 (NKJV)
35 Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The LORD of hosts is His name): 36 " If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the LORD, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever." 37 Thus says the LORD: " If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the LORD.
Jeremiah 33:25-26 25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; 26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
This revisionist concept of Israel’s forfeiture of their Land is refuted by the prophet Jeremiah. "Thus saith the LORD...if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth, then will I cast away the seed of Jacob...for I will cause their captivity to return and have mercy on them" (Jer 31:35-37; 33:25-26).
These two prophecies in Jeremiah together devastate "Replacement Theology." Only when God’s laws of the universe cease to control day and night and the operation of heaven and earth, only then will God cast off the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Then Jeremiah shows, "That the city Jerusalem shall be built to the Lord" by the returned Jews and "It shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down anymore forever" (Jer 31:38-40). The descendants of Israel (Jacob) (Not Ishmael or Esau?) will receive the city of Jerusalem (including East Jerusalem) forever.
Jeremiah 3:17 16And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more. (The "Jews" will no longer remember it. Us Gentiles "never knew about it.") (No more Temple made with hands!!)
Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. (At the time when the gentiles are fulfilled. Luke:21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
The judgement of (Ishmael or Esau?)
Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD's. When will these things be>?
Dan. 7:22 "Then shall the prophecy of Daniel be fulfilled that 'judgment was given to the saints of the Most High; and the time came when the saints possessed the kingdom'.
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
A picture of the last day kingdoms of the gentile world below.
Daniel 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.43And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. ( They cannot make an agreement and keep it.)
Isaiah 11:11-12 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea [the nations far beyond Babylon]. And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
Zephaniah 3:19-20 "Behold, at that time I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame. At that time will I bring you again, even in the time that I gather you: for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth, when I turn back your captivity before your eyes, saith the LORD."
Amos 9:14-15 "And I will bring again the captivity [return from exile] of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. 2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Micah 5:3 Therefore will he give them up, (Jews) until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: (Church in perfection) then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. 25 For I would not, brethren, (Us gentiles) that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Romans11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
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Bible Study Wed. 6:30

Is the next phase of Gods Kingdom coming?

2006-05-05T02:26:00.000-07:00

Is the next phase of Gods Kingdom coming? Is it really coming. Let us consider two questions: first, when does this kingdom come; second, to whom does it belong?
When: The kingdom is both present and future. On the one hand Jesus said it was here now: "The kingdom of God is at hand" (Mark 1:15). "Behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you" (Luke 17:21). It is also future, the gates of hell will not prevail against it. We and His disciples were told to pray, "Thy kingdom come"; and Jesus looked forward to the day when He would again drink the cup with His disciples in the kingdom of His Father (Matthew 26:29). What accounts for these seemingly different phases or chronologies of the kingdom? Namely, Jesus viewed the kingdom as present and growing within the world, but its full completion was not yet perfect. To illustrate this point, Jesus spoke of the kingdom as "like a grain of mustard seed" which, though tiny at the beginning, grows to "the greatest of shrubs," or "like leaven which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till it was all leavened" (Matthew 13:31-33). Three measures of meal is the secret. It will fill all the earth. Its that stone in Daniel. The feet is where we are now. Romans 11:25-26 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.(Us who are saved) 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (The King belongs to them also.) A new work in the kingdom?
Jesus knew about the times of the gentles, he knew about Israels double punishment, seven times, He knew he would be betrayed by Judas. He knew us gentiles would foul it up. God may seem slow to us but he is always right on time.
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. NIV
Daniel 7:13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. (Read Acts chapter1) He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language (Wow) worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. NIV
Daniel 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. (Jesus) Fear not little children it is the fathers good will to give you the Kingdom.
2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 2 Corinthians 12:2 (Think this might have been a vision out in the future? "Thy kingdom come"; As time goes by the Kingdom gets filled with both good and bad. They must be removed. Then the saints of the most high God will Processed it. God will do this not man.
Luke 16:16 KJV> The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. NIV>16 "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. (Both good and bad.) But Judgement day is coming!! Are you in the body of Christ? Could you be in the Kingdom of the Beast? Or Mother of Harlots.
The kingdom of God was not truly known until Christ came proclaiming it. The law and the prophets were until John, since then the good news of the kingdom is preached (Luke 16:16). It will not achieve its consummation, however much its growth in the world, until at the end and the evil is sorted out from the good. Then to those Sheep at His right hand "the king will say…‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world’" (Matthew 25:34) Read the seven parables of Jesus about the Kingdom.
To whom? The kingdom belongs only to those of childlike attitude, "Whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it" (Mark 10:15). A small child accepts a parent’s forgiveness completely, and whatever his playmate’s faults against him he readily forgives and forgets. The child lives in a happy world of being forgiven and forgiving. So must we all become as little children if we are to share in God’s kingdom. Mark 10:15 I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."
Matthew 5:3> The kingdom only belongs to those who are "poor in spirit" "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" Those who are not proud in spirit, who are willing to bend so low as to admit their need of God’s grace and to gladly show forth that grace and love to others: to such belongs the kingdom.
The kingdom is also a possession of those "who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake." "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:10). Strangely enough, one of the signs of the kingdom’s reality is persecution from without and within. The world becomes antagonistic toward anyone who breaks out of its mold, a mold that includes neither facing up to evil nor knowing the wonder of forgiveness. Even as Christ was reviled and persecuted, so will there be for all members of His kingdom times of real sorrow and pain. Yet through it all there is blessedness.
John 3:5 Finally, the kingdom belongs only to those who are "born of water and the Spirit." "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God". In other words, there must be the forgiveness that cleanses and the renewing power of God’s Spirit which makes one live a life of mercy and compassion toward others. God has promised the gift of His Spirit to all who believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, and those who believe and receive live henceforth in God’s eternal kingdom.
We see it nowhere, (NOW) it comes not with observation and yet it is everywhere near, as people gives themselves to God’s marvelous plan and grace and show forth that grace to others. It is a kingdom of childlike existence, a kingdom in which pride of spirit is replaced by humility of spirit, a kingdom in which one’s self-independts-protective, self-conscious, self-defensive spirit is more and more purified by the Spirit of the living God. It is a new world, regardless of persecutions that must come, so exciting, so joyous, so rich and full that one lives to share it, to proclaim it, to help others also find its glory. You can start your life anew. There is a Kingdom where Christ is the head. Yes we have been in the kingdom where they kill us and try to shut us up but that time will soon end and he will come in his glory.
A great span of time and Jacobs trouble will pass.
Jer. 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
Watch our news and you can till it in near coming in its next phase. Isaiah 65:17-19 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. (Sounds like the New Jerusalem of Rev. 22. So let us gentiles rejoice with his people that has come to their land even in unbeliveth for he soon shall come to them with us.
Zechariah 14:3 Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him. NIV
(Thats us saved out of all the familys of the earth) DAMV Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Isaiah 40:2 Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and proclaim to her that her hard service has been completed, that her sin has been paid for, that she has received from the LORD's hand double (2520 years,) for all her sins. NIV 1967
So do we rejoice to cry with the disciples and children of old, Jesrusalem, Jerusalem the city of our God where saints of old have trod with hearts of love we are turning back to you. Where Jesus paid our debt at calvary. Next year in Jerusalem.
"You need not cry very loud; God is nearer to us than we think." I believe Jesus is the King of this KINGDOM
Dillard Munsell dillmunsell@yahoo.com Home study wed. 6:30 PM

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But when that which is perfect is come.

2006-04-24T00:13:00.000-07:00

But when that which is perfect is come.
When things done in part are done away with? Was it the Canon of scripture?

1 Corinthians 13:9-12 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. KJV (To be know in the resurrection) (If you notice we have always done this. /that is prophesy in part/ Our prophecies have failed, tougnes have ceased because we don't want to do it any more. We act like we don't need to pray in the Spirit any more/no wonder!! And not because God took them away but we took them away. Some leaders will stop tounges even if there is an interetation. So The Spirit is grieved!
Please notice the 8th verse
1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; ( Be fulfilled, where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. NIV ( No Mention Of wisdom?) (Ask your teachers when will they be stilled?) When they the so called clergy stop people from doing it, that when!!
(I say as long as souls can be saved, no gift of the Spirit will be done away with!! (God is not an Indian giver.) What you need to perfect you with, god has given us these tools and they are all these gifts not just part of them. He is not saying I am going to take away two of them and just let you have Pastors or Elders to perfect you. If it wasn't for the new birth we couldn't even see the kingdom of God.
Note> Zephaniah 3:9 This is in the Old testament revealed in the new. For then (when?) will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. (You see here is a prophecy to come after Zephainah 3:9, has it come yet? It will take a long time for this to happen. God confounded mans language at the tower of balel, now he wants to give us a pure one. (when?) When that which is perfect is come, thats when. (Wow) Zechariah 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. Why would god want to devour the Kingdoms of this world. The truth is because there is to be only one King and one Lord over all the earth. This is going to take some time , so Jesus started the Kingdom when he shed his blood at calvary. He then gave it to the little flock two thousand years ago. He has never taken away one gift from the church. But some seem to think that tongues and prophecy have failed already after he gave them about 2000 AD. If they have failed in your gatherings It's because you dont teach it. The canon of the Bible has nothing to do with it.
Even the whole nature of earth waits for the perfect to come.
Romans:8:18 I consider that our present sufferings (the cup that Jesus drink) are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. (When?) 19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. (When?)
22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently. NIV
1 Corinthians 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. (What happened to meeting like this?) 26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
Ever see a gathering like this? No the church has to many hirlings in it. The parables declares it. ("How did they get there read Jude") The context here in (1 Corinthians 13:8) is not the failing of something or saying it will not be given to his people anymore at a certain time, but that which will not fail is.> (LOVE) Don't go over board and say tongues and prophecy have failed already. They will be here as long as it takes us to reach perfection. They will do their work in every born again Christian till Jesus comes again. (Oh what Perfection then!!) Perfection was not at the so called canon of the Bible. The Bible is not this perfection.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease;(When the perfect is come, right.) whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. KJV When? (You learn and you forget. "Right" Get as old as I am and you will see. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. As long as you have the Testmoney of Jesus You will have the Spirit of prophecy. Do you know he rose from the dead? I don't understand why people are afraid of tongues and prophecy. Maybe they are ashamed of Jesus. They say, "Don't do that in my church"!!! Well it is their church then not the Lords. I would love to see some of the power in it.
Rev. 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!" 16 And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, NKJV ( Sounds like God is going to take over the whole world.) Amen?
Do some prophecy fail? Yes. This one will not!!

Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.Better get the testimony of Jesus.
2 Kings 20:1 In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amos came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live. ? Can we change Gods mind about a prophecy.
A prophecy that Isaiah spoke for Hezekiah failed or didn't come to pass because Hezekiah prayed and fifteen years was added to his life. Isaiah 38:1-6 Hezekiah changed Gods mind ABOUT a prophecy from Isaiah the son of Amos.
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. (Question here?, why was this a fellow servant and not Jesus himself, " Because Jesus was in Heaven and will be there until the restitution of all things.

Act 3:17" Now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your leaders. 18 But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Christ would suffer. 19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you even Jesus. 21 He must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore (restitution KJV) everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. NIV
When That Which is Perfect is Come? "Question"? Is this the Canon of scripture?
This is a reply on the subject of 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 where the doctrine that tongues and prophecy have ceased or failed to be in the body of Christ or not on the earth today. Because it says "that which is perfect is come" Some People say ("that which is perfect"= is the>>> canon of scriptures.) (I don't believe this is true.) (But go and learn what that means.) If Paul intended it to be figurative, what would the Temple of God represent in his day till he removes him? In another of his letters, Paul speaks of the body of a believer being the Temple of God because the Holy Spirit dwells within it. (1 Cor. 3:16-17; 1 Cor. 6:19). Similar references in the Gospels refer to an individual (cf. Matt. 26:61; 27:40; Mark 14:58; 15:29; John 2:19-21). However, the church as a whole is called the Temple of God (2 Cor. 6:16), and also the House of God.
1 Cor 13:8- Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; It is interesting to note that people claim that the perfect mentioned in 1 Corinthians 13:10 is the completion of the Bible, and yet they refuse to obey the Bible and prove such a theory by two or three plain Scriptures! God does not waste His time mentioning things and not giving confirmation through His word that any given doctrine is true. That alone is reason enough to reject the doctrine that tongues have ceased! If you believe that tongues have ceased you must be putting your trust in man, because the Bible never says they have and clearly shows us that they will not cease until the perfect is come.
We cannot say that "speaking in tongues is the evidence for a person's salvation. "(The fruits, so on. Gal. 5:22-23 are more of an evidence than tongues.) The fruit of the spirit does not save us it is the Grace of God by faith. There are several purposes of tongues, of which is a "sign" of receiving the Holy Spirit, Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers (1 Corinthians 14:22). As long as there are unbelievers around tongues will be around as a witness to them.
(1 Corinthians 14:2) For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries It is a means to pray to God:
A sign for the unbeliever? Even Peter a believer needed a sign. Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision (Jews) which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. (Did Peter need a sign?) Yes he did and God gave him one. This was not their own language ,but the same gift all the one hundred and twenty Jews received at Pentecost.
Question? Is it clear from 1 Cor. 13:8-12 that "Sign and Revelatory" gifts were only given to the Apostles and they would cease upon completion of the canon of scripture? (Also do you know who canonized your Bible??) Do all you Protestants know who authorized your bible? Look at that verse again.1 Cor 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. ( What is he saying?, >><<>>) But when will it be with out spot or/ so on so forth. Perfected. If we don’t have these Gifts we will never grow up. You should teach them! We can't take part of this passage like ("tongues, they shall cease") and leave out the rest. If tongues have ceased, then so has knowledge, and so has prophesy. The testiomony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy will last for ever. We are not saying that they will not, the question is when?And not some prophesy, but all prophesy! Not a little knowledge, but all knowledge! There are yet many things to be fulfilled yet in the future. Have all these things failed? Are the office or works of a Prophet (the calling, here, rather than the events) no longer needed?

1 Cor 13: 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. Question Has the perfect come yet. NO!! We know him after the Spirit!!

1 Cor 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaks unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 5 "I would that ye all spake with tongues," but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speak to with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. (So we know Paul believed it and did it.!!) It is a channel through which messages are given to Christians. (1 Corinthians 14:5,6).
1 Corinthians 14: 1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
1 Corinthians 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. (Till the last soul is saved and Jesus comes back no gift is done away with.) Those who teach so may find themselfs blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come..

Mark 3;29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. If God offers it to you don't turn it down!! Those who believe in the"canon is that which is perfect" doctrine, simply ignore this scripturally stated purpose of prophecy. The church still needs to be spoken to in edification, exhortation, and comfort.

Jude 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. (THE CHURCH)They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. NIV. Here is a word and is why we have all these tares and bad fish and birds in the Kingdom. Also again Jesus said let them grow together tell the harvest. Most don’t like that verse. So they put you out of the church or their group?. Matthew 13:30
Jude 1:12 These men are blemishes at your love feasts, of charity eating with you without the slightest qualm shepherds (Pastors) who feed only themselves. (These men will remain in the church till the end comes, so don't be afraid of them, have some deserment. Which also is a gift. They have been in the church for 2000 years. In other words this is the first phase of the Kingdom is a battle against the good and the evil in the Kingdom. But the next part (same Kingdom) will be Perfect and then he will gather out of the Kingdom all things that offend.(Same Kingdom that Jesus started) When we delete something from the bible like tounges that is a weapon and sign the lord gave the church or any other thing we must be careful that we are not numbered with those that John said not to change the words of this book or the plagues will which are written in this book will be added unto you. They knew not tell the flood came and it took them all away. (Question, Who did it take away? Who on earth would want to be a leader of Gods people? Seeing they will receive the greater judgement.
1 Cor 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. (Did the bringing in of the New Testament (canon) bring us to the point where we can say we are "face-to-face"? Do you still know in part, or do you know Jesus even as you are known? (Yet?) How does the canon of scripture fulfill all of these points? Where does scripture say or even imply that the canon of scripture is the fulfilling of these things? The scripture doesn't. "Only the private interpretations of men do." When that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away"We do agree that this isn't exactly talking about Jesus' second coming. Because He already came, and He was already perfect the first time He came! But we were not. The gifts of the Spirit or for the perfection of the Saints. That’s US. However, let's look at the clues that this passage does give us. Let's start with the very first one. 1 Cor 13:8 Charity (Love) never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail. Prophesies shall fail. (When?) Well we said it before "when that which is perfect is come," These things aren't done away, until there are no more prophesies to be fulfilled! What is the last prophesy to be fulfilled? Perhaps a thousand years after he comes again. Satan must be bound. Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, (Notice After Satan was bound!) After the first restitution of all things. Acts 3:21 He must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. NIV

Act 3:21 KJV Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Rev 22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the "nations." 3 And there shall be no more curse: (?Where?? when?) but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;(No Temple) and his servants shall serve him:.. 4 and they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. (Hearts) (When we see his face!! Some will see his face at the first resurrection. (Thank about no temple in this place. The son of perdition is setting in the temple of God now. Which is in the first phase of the Kingdom.
You know we will have to believe this book of Rev. or else take it out of the Canonized Books.)
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. This is not Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. This was a sign and wonder like Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead. They all died again.
Rev. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, KJV
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremonger’s, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches>.(Gatherings) I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (Notice dogs, sorcerers, whoremonger’s, murderers, idolaters, and those who makes lies are present when the New City is here also.?) That's when all these things/ prophecy, tongues, and knowledge are to fail. And as it specifically says, that is when we shall see Him face to face, as is prophesied. For we are as the sons of Abraham, walking in the steps of our father Abraham by faith till he comes. Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God."Question?" Doesn't the fact that the Greek word used for "cease" denotes a process, rather than an event, and the fact that the Greek word for "perfect" is not masculine in gender, but rather neuter, prove that which is perfect is not the coming of Jesus, and that the ceasing of tongues would not be an "event" but a process like the formulating of scriptures? If so what I am writing now is a Process to quicken your minds to study your bible. These facts actually bear out perfectly with what is being told here.1 Cor 3:9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. (Is Gods building finished?) The foundation had twelve stones with names of the twelve apostles. What about the top of the building? Will your name be the last name on the last stone put in that building?
1 Cor 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, (Paul) as a wise master builder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon.(another is> Us until Christ comes again.) But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For no other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning>> Christ and the church.The canon of scripture does not fit the fulfilment of 1 Cor.13 because knowledge and prophesies didn't fail at that point. The coming of Jesus was not the fulfilment due to the wording of 1 Cor.13:8=12 But, "when that which is perfect is come," (second phase) is that city whose builder and maker is God! The bride of Christ, the New Jerusalem! On earth!! come down out of heaven, a city of people. Can you understand this next verse?
Isaiah 65:17 "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. 18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I will create, for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and its people a joy. 19 I will rejoice over Jerusalem and take delight in my people; the sound of weeping and of crying will be heard in it no more. (To be fulfilled yet.?)> This is to the Israelites who have come back to their land.
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.1 Cor 3:9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.This does bear out the scripture which says,1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And we know that he is perfect, and therefore, we, His church, shall then be perfected! This bears out perfectly with the fact, that the Greek word for perfect in 1 Cor. is not a tense for an event, but a process of time. (Remember the times of the Gentiles.) Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, (Why) for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: ( In future as a whole body?) Therefore, the argument against present day speaking in tongues is not founded on a proper reading of 1 Corinthians, when it is read in context. John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. KJV. Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: Acts 10:45 On the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. (Hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church.) Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 for the promise (this, which ye now see and hear) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Question? Have the scriptures brought us to a full revelation of God? Or do we still see in part? People who say these gifts have ceased. "It is their private interpretation." It is drawing conclusions from scripture, that isn't stated in scripture, but is contradicted in other scriptures in fact it is contradicted in the very passage we use as it's evidence! 1 Cor 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face!! The canon of scripture brings no one "face to face" with Christ and God! That is for a prophesy well in the future of the canon of scripture! The scriptures still allow us only to see through a glass darkly. In fact, it isn't the scriptures that were to lead us into all truth, but the Spirit of truth. Rev. 19:10 For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy." If you have the testimony of Jesus you are prophesying.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. (To you and how long??) Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. By saying that we no longer need the gift of prophesy, we would be saying that we no longer need those who speak unto men to edification, exhortation, and comfort.
Matthew19:28 And Jesus said to them, Verily I say unto you, That ye who have followed me, (Now) , in this life of flesh,) in the regeneration (when) the Son of man shall sit down upon his throne of glory. The KING SHALL COME WITH POWER!! ( What a promise for those that follow him to the end.)
John 6:37-40 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (Last day is when Matthew 19:28 is fulfilled.) in the regeneration/ Bible study 6:30 Wed.
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